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Synthetik
11-28-2006, 02:48 PM
I have added a gallery to my site called "Stave haven." It was inspired by some awesome SMD drums that I saw, and an excellent article on Sean's site. I will have to add a stave snare to my kit in 2007, after the dust settles from my new kit/cymbal purchase and the holidays. I am interested in a 14x8" with alternating woods like purpleheart and walnut. That would give the staves room to strut their stuff both visually, and sonically.
If you have any stave or segmented drums, please post for discussion, and I'd gladly add them to my gallery as well.
The gallery link: http://www.synthetictubs.com/stave_haven.htm
In case you are wondering, a nice 14x8 stave snare can be had for about $700 USD.
Deathmetalconga
11-30-2006, 04:37 AM
I have added a gallery to my site called "Stave haven." It was inspired by some awesome SMD drums that I saw, and an excellent article on Sean's site. I will have to add a stave snare to my kit in 2007, after the dust settles from my new kit/cymbal purchase and the holidays. I am interested in a 14x8" with alternating woods like purpleheart and walnut. That would give the staves room to strut their stuff both visually, and sonically.
If you have any stave or segmented drums, please post for discussion, and I'd gladly add them to my gallery as well.
The gallery link: http://www.synthetictubs.com/stave_haven.htm
In case you are wondering, a nice 14x8 stave snare can be had for about $700 USD.
Another fascinating page for an already fascinating site. There was someone here who purchased a high-quality stave shell and finished it with his pick of high-end hardware. Basically, he got an $800 snare for about half that as I recall and the satisfaction of making his own drum.
The discussion about the sound conducting abilities of staves vs. plywood was very educative. It would be great to see the major manufacturers break out of their plywood rut - there are SO MANY things out of which to make drums yet 90 percent are plywood. Plywood is probably the most economical way to make a drum, but with modern manufacturing techniques, they surely ought to be able to branch out into other materials in a cost-effective way.
I have a stave djembe, bongos, ashikos and congas, but no stave trap drums. That may well be my next acquisition.
Come to think of it, in my entire collection of exotic percussion and trap drums, I have no plywood at all. None.
www.terrasonus.com
sacco
12-01-2006, 06:38 PM
As I already mentioned in another thread, I personally own a 7 pieces Tamburo Original all maple set built in 1991 by Tullio Granatello (Tamburo's founder), i.e. when the company only made high end stave drums. Later Tamburo became part of the Proel Group and, as far as I know, almost discontinued the production of the quite expensive Original model (according to their web site the Original is still available, but I haven't seen any new one since years).
The Original is an absolutely outstanding set that can be used in any situation. Despite the relatively small dimension of my drums (8"x8", 8"x10", 8"x12", 13"x13", 14"x14" TT, 14"x6.5" SD and 16"x18" BD), I was able to obtain a very funky sound (with an empty two-headed BD!) as well as a tipical high pitched jazz sound. I think this is one of the most remarkable characteristics of stave drums: the available tuning range seems to be wider than the one of other types of drums. I also played other types of drums (and some were absolutely excellent), but most of them seemed to give their best sound only within a particular tuning range (fundamental pitch?), which is not the case of my Tamburo.
Additionally, it also seems that in general stave drums have a more focused / precise sound, which not all drummers like. Concerning the volume, I would say that my Tamburo can be quite loud considering the small dimension of the drums.
I do not have any pictures to post, but I recently found a picture of a Tamburo Original set also built around 1991 (exotic wood and different dimension, but similar construction to mine). Here's the link:
http://www.acusticanapoli.com/dettaglio_home.php?catalogo=1271
drumzac
12-01-2006, 07:19 PM
If you want some stave porn...here's my beauty. 14x5.25 maple/purpleheart.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e144/69Eyesonme/snare1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e144/69Eyesonme/snare2.jpg
Synthetik
12-01-2006, 07:43 PM
1. The Tamburo stave is supurb! What a beauty! I have to agree with your assessment, because according to SMD drums, thick staves are more focused with more attack, and less midrange. Perfect for snare drums, or stadium-sound drums. Probably great for the studio as well.
2. Thanks for the drum porn! I *will* have to add that tasty stuff to my gallery this weekend.
Any stave/segment--even from a company that is no longer around is welcome.
Jeremy
12-01-2006, 08:31 PM
drumsolo.cc has a LOT of segmented drums. go to the snare gallery. it also has a bunch of info on different materials, which is cool.
i'll soon be getting one of his purple heart snare drums. hopefully with the brass-colored rims like he has on the site.
Synthetik
12-01-2006, 09:34 PM
drumsolo.cc has a LOT of segmented drums. go to the snare gallery. it also has a bunch of info on different materials, which is cool.
i'll soon be getting one of his purple heart snare drums. hopefully with the brass-colored rims like he has on the site.
I had been avoiding that...just because what he does is to the nth degree. I mean, total perfection in finishes. Greg does magic, and the prices (ouch) reflect that.
Steady Freddy
12-01-2006, 09:49 PM
Here's my Brady 7 x 13.
Synthetik
12-01-2006, 09:52 PM
Here's my Brady 7 x 13.
Nice! I am flipping a coin...Brady page or stave page...hmmm...
I bet that sucker cracks like mad! POP!!!!
I'd love a Brady alternating wandoo and jarrah...or maybe just wandoo.... decisions...
I just looked up sheoak, jarrah and others. Snares like that sell for just under $800. (Indoor storm)
Deathmetalconga
12-02-2006, 01:10 AM
As I already mentioned in another thread, I personally own a 7 pieces Tamburo Original all maple set built in 1991 by Tullio Granatello
I do not have any pictures to post, but I recently found a picture of a Tamburo Original set also built around 1991 (exotic wood and different dimension, but similar construction to mine). Here's the link:
http://www.acusticanapoli.com/dettaglio_home.php?catalogo=1271
That's an outrageously beautiful set. The staves give it a lot of attitude. Solid construction like staves will make even an 18 inch bass drum project concussion-producing punch.
You can't tempt us by telling us about your set and then not post pictures. We want drum porn - pictures of your set.
Show me yours and I'll show you mine at http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18719
www.terrasonus.com
franklinj
12-02-2006, 02:02 AM
Synthetik-check out Global Custom drums and the Rhythm King websites. BEST stave shells out there (from what ive heard.) Rhythm King shells are not expensive at all-I once saw a 14x8 Bubinga sell go for $125 on there!
Synthetik
12-02-2006, 02:44 AM
Synthetik-check out Global Custom drums and the Rhythm King websites. BEST stave shells out there (from what ive heard.) Rhythm King shells are not expensive at all-I once saw a 14x8 Bubinga sell go for $125 on there!
They are already on my stave haven page.
Check out www.kddrums.co.uk - they're a small UK custom firm, but seem to specialise in segmented kits and man are they beautiful to look at, some stunning pics there. I'd love to own anything that damn fine looking.
sacco
12-02-2006, 02:50 PM
That's an outrageously beautiful set. The staves give it a lot of attitude. Solid construction like staves will make even an 18 inch bass drum project concussion-producing punch.
You can't tempt us by telling us about your set and then not post pictures. We want drum porn - pictures of your set.
Show me yours and I'll show you mine at http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18719
www.terrasonus.com
Your set is absolutely beautiful! I would love to play it!
Concerning mine, I can't post pictures because the set is currently at a friend's place quite far away from where I live. Due to my job (I am by far not a professional musician) and family life, I had to give up drumming for a while. Once I will find an opportunity to start playing again I will certainly take pictures of the set and post them.
If you want to see more Tamburo Original have a look at the official Tamburo catalogue, where you will also find pictures of the other stave model offered, the Opera:
http://download.proelgroup.com/tamburo/tamburo_catalogue.pdf
Synthetik
12-02-2006, 03:59 PM
If you want some stave porn...here's my beauty. 14x5.25 maple/purpleheart.
Those splines look amazing! An effect you just can't get with plywood. I am considering alternate purpleheart and walnut staves.
Also yes: that Tamburo is Molto Bello!
sacco
02-12-2007, 12:46 PM
Old thread, but I found a nice video concerning the construction of stave drums:
http://www.lesoprano.it/azienda/video_en.html
Le Soprano is a small company based near Bergamo (Northern Italy). Of course the video is a kind of advertising tool, but it shows some interesting aspects regarding the building of real custom stave drums. By the way, I remember that a couple of years ago Modern Drummer made a review of a top of the line Le Soprano drumset, and they found it absolutely outstanding.
Enjoy!
Deathmetalconga
02-12-2007, 06:19 PM
Old thread, but I found a nice video concerning the construction of stave drums:
http://www.lesoprano.it/azienda/video_en.html
Le Soprano is a small company based near Bergamo (Northern Italy). Of course the video is a kind of advertising tool, but it shows some interesting aspects regarding the building of real custom stave drums. By the way, I remember that a couple of years ago Modern Drummer made a review of a top of the line Le Soprano drumset, and they found it absolutely outstanding.
Enjoy!
Wow, never heard of that company, thanks for the post.
Insane drums. Incredible beauty and sound and the hardware is ingenious, including a "suspension" mount for the bass drum that allows you to have a virgin bass drum, yet mount toms on it. As much works of art as instruments.
Really exclusive sets - only six to eight a year are made!
www.terrasonus.com
katman
02-13-2007, 04:14 PM
You probably already know about Lignum drums then. See how their staves are joined.
sacco
02-20-2007, 05:46 PM
There is another Italian drum company which is building very interesting stave snares (and not only): Drum Art. According to their web site even the percussion players of La Scala in Milan are now using their snare drums.
Here is the link to the web site, and believe me, it is worth a visit (for the drums, not for the site ...):
http://www.drumart.it/home_en.htm
(Please forgive my chauvinism: I realise that I am definitely becoming a kind of advertising agent for Italian drum companies: Tamburo, Le Soprano, Mosajco, and now Drum Art!).
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