Chinese Cymbals

[Torn]

Is there any reason why some people play the upside down????I dont own one yet and have never played one but just seen the chili peppers and chad smith has his at 90 degrees with the bootom side to him???

any advice, also what is a good rock chinese cymbal

[Trommur]

I have to china's : Zildjian Z Custom China 20", 18" Sabian ProSonix china, and i like them both i think it's more comforteble to hit the Sabian china, but clearly the Zildjian is more for rock and metal, Lars Ulrich and Ginger Fish have it :)

[Torn]

any reason why some people play them upside down???

[hauk]

upside down just gives it a slightly different sound, plus it doesn't chew up sticks. i suggest wuhan, cheap and nice and trashy chinese sound

[Backwards Marathon]

meh ive always thought that they put them upside down for like a "quick release." What i mean by that is theres not all that noise after you hit it, like its more of just a quick sudden hit. Hope that helps lol.



Wes

[Deathmetalconga]

upside down just gives it a slightly different sound, plus it doesn't chew up sticks. i suggest wuhan, cheap and nice and trashy chinese sound

Depends on what sound you're looking for. I played lots of Wuhans for 15 years and now I have an 18 inch Zildjian A custom. The sound is cleaner (much less trashy and a Wuhan), but with more woosh, breath, shimmer and gulp. That's more of a European interpretation of the Chinese sound, but I'm liking that more now.

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[GRUNTERSDAD]

MIne is upside down because right side up and the sticks would take a beating on the up-turned edge.

[syaoran05]

sound-wise, upsidedown makes the sound more focused and it has more bite. when mounted the normal way, its more open, just a very very little less bite and in my experience, washier.

also, when you mount it upside down, it doesnt chew up your sticks, but it only has one basic sound, which is a "crash". when you mount it the normal way though, it can function as a crash, and a ride. if your china has a round bell, you can take advantage of that too and use it like you would your ordinary ride.

when upside down, you can position it almost anyhow you want, but i suggest nothing more than 45 degrees tilt coz more than that its just plain eye candy and imo its not comfortable. when mounted normally, position it like you would your ride - if its positioned high, make sure to tilt it so you can access the bow and the bell without the flange intruding. if positioned low, its better to have it flat, or near flat. on hitting a normally mounted china try to position the stick tangent to the circle of the cymbal so it wont hit the flange.

[evans_69]

20" 2002 and 20" HHX

[otway]

I find it hella chews up sticks if you mount it right side up... but screw the sticks, IMO i think that is the best way to crack your china as the lip will be taking the impact when you hit the edge..

Hey i have my china upsidedown and still hit around the bell area often and i think it is effective (at least on my china).. therefore i can have it upside down..how i like it.. and i can still use the effect of the bell.. anyone else does this?

oh and i would recommend.. zildjian a custom china, wuhan, and aax extreeme china

[fusssion]

Here are two pictures......one is of my old 18 Latin Percussion RanCan Chinese, mounted the "old" way .....kind of like you're describing, (90 degrees....high up on the left side of the picture [looking at it]) .....the other is my current set up from an angled 'drivers seat' postition.......my Saluda 19" Voodoo Pure Chinese mounted above and to the right of my ride.....

Go to www.saludacymblals.com and inquire.....they are hand hammered custom cymbals that sound amazing!

By the way......either set up...I hit the cymbal in the same spot .....on the outer lip with the middle to upper portion of my stick...

[Skitch]

For the pop gigs, upside down for puncuation. For Big Band gigs, right side up for ride work.


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[tamaboy124]

18" 2002. It is a brilliant sounding china

[AronMapex]

Mine is uoside down becous if I have the right side up I would dent the cymbal and its just cool that way :)

[syaoran05]

sticks wont get chewed up even if you mount it normally if you hit the china like a ride.

[goalieman92]

to save stick and your china. much better chance of breakage when right side up.

i'd suggest a 20" sabian AAmetalX china

[pearl_floyd]

i'd suggest a 20" sabian AAmetalX china

totally agree...i have the 18" version and it deffinatly rocks.

[Mr. Pasquini]

I have one china, a 12" Wuhan lion china. I mount it right side up, I just think the sound is less harsh and it is easier to crash this way. It does, however, chew up sticks.

Anyway, if you want an accent china it's hard to beat the Meinl Generation X Filter China

[the skin man]

any reason why some people play them upside down???

I say the main reason is that the sound is better. For example, I'd bet that these two chinas would sound better if they were upside down:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkC80mnNDg

I know, just a video, so the sound quality is a little weak, but still.