Saluda's Waiting My Arrival!

[fusssion]

Hey all.....

My new Saluda's did in fact arrive yesterday afternoon and wow what a nice package!! These cymbals are beautiful and unfortunately, my picture doesn't even come close to comparing (phone picture) but I hope to have better ones tonight at band practice (digital camera available). AND...I'll finally be able to "test drive" these beauties!!!!

I'll also see if I can get a soundfile for you guys too, ok ?

Here is what is I received: The numbers are the gram weights of each

8" Mist X splash weight not listed, probably not necessary :)
14" Hi hats: Top-Mist Brilliant med-thin 773, Bottom-Mist-X wavy bottom heavy 1261
17" Mist-X Med-thin crash 1295
18" Mist-X Mellow crash 1494
18" Mist-X Full Crash 1543
19" Voodoo China 1377
21" Mist-X Raw Bell Heavy Dry ride w/ Earthworks finish top and bottom 3023 ( WOW WHAT A FINISH ON THAT!!!! )

If these sound ANYTHING like the 18" Full Jamie made for me a couple weeks ago...I'm going to be the happiest guy alive tonight!!

More to come soon!

[fusssion]

I'm going to send this to the top because I've added / changed my post, etc...enjoy

[franklinj]

Damn man, not bad! You already know how I feel about Saluda (due to our PMs.)

Saluda is an awesome company!

[Synthetik]

I am a nouveaux Saludian!

My order placed today:

Mist-x: 14" rock hats, 12" splash, 16/17/18 crash, 21" dry ride
Diamond: 16"/22" china

I felt that that:

New kit, new cymbals. My collection (except for splash and hats) was years old. And that It's cool ordering cymbals that would not exist if I had not made specific reqests. I am looking forward to increased versatility.

The whole setup came in at a grand. This is *hundreds* less.

[franklinj]

Ah, we have another convert! :>)

Im ordering some more Saludas after Christmas. My kits going to have 4 or more crashes :>)

[Synthetik]

I really like the look of the mist x and diamond. Very stylish!

In about two weeks, I should have them, and some cool pics.

[dom]

i love my hats but for now im in the same boat as franklinj nothing new till after christmas. 2 reasons cant buy anything over like $20 drum related or my parents will think i allready got whats on my wish list(all drum stuff) it was like a 30minute seminar on what i would like for christmas so dont want to jinx that. 2nd im broke and have to wait till after because any money i have has to go to presents thats the down side to having 8 other brothers and sisters but then you get stuff from them too so it evens out...wow im way off topic now anyways what i really wanted to say fusssion great buy good luck with them, and saluda rocks

[Synthetik]

A couple pics to familiarize myself:

Mist-x logo and crash:
http://www.drumgearonline.com/amistx5s.jpg
http://www.drumgearonline.com/mistxlogo3.jpg

Diamond logo and china cymbal:
http://www.drumgearonline.com/diamond2.jpg

http://www.saludacymbals.com/c/images/20diamondchina.jpg

[fusssion]

Hey guys,....thanks ......

Digital pics are coming soon! My keyboard player should be sending them today. I took a bunch,....one of each cymbal, then a new 'overhead/driver' shot for my avatar! :)

Anyhow.....played them last night.......HOLY BAJEEZUS BELT! My band-mates FREAKED OUT! They said that they can't beleive the sound difference....how clear, how crisp, how resonant,....and as my lead guitarist said.....how "musical" !! I couldn't agree more.

So far, very happy...........stay tuned for pics later this morning hopefully, and next week I'll add a soundclip because we'll be recording a bit........

by the way,...Synthetic..... CONGRATS...and WELCOME ABOARD!!!

[Synthetik]

Hey guys,....thanks ......

Digital pics are coming soon! My keyboard player should be sending them today. I took a bunch,....one of each cymbal, then a new 'overhead/driver' shot for my avatar! :)

Anyhow.....played them last night.......HOLY BAJEEZUS BELT! My band-mates FREAKED OUT! They said that they can't beleive the sound difference....how clear, how crisp, how resonant,....and as my lead guitarist said.....how "musical" !! I couldn't agree more.

So far, very happy...........stay tuned for pics later this morning hopefully, and next week I'll add a soundclip because we'll be recording a bit........

by the way,...Synthetic..... CONGRATS...and WELCOME ABOARD!!!

Cool! What did you have before?

Jamie did indicate that Saluda would be more powerful than a lot of cymbals.

[fusssion]

Cool! What did you have before?

Jamie did indicate that Saluda would be more powerful than a lot of cymbals.

He's right!! NO DOUBT!

I had Zildjians,...which.....I really liked,....was a Zildjian man forever....
I had A's and A customs basically........I had the same set up, but had a 6 and 10 inch splash I wasn't using ..

[fusssion]

Ok guys......here we go........pictures .......decent ones!:)

If you need statistics/details...they are in the first post.

ENJOY!

[Synthetik]

Cool! A forest of new bronze...

I just received confirmation that mine are being built right now.

So...they get shipped when they are done....

[idea] If Saludas are *that* good when I get them, I will add a "Saluda Owners Gallery" (SOG?) to my site. I will showcase kits/cymbal setups just because it's another thing that isn't as abundant as the big name companies.

[franklinj]

Cool! A forest of new bronze...

I just received confirmation that mine are being built right now.

So...they get shipped when they are done....

[idea] If Saludas are *that* good when I get them, I will add a "Saluda Owners Gallery" (SOG?) to my site. I will showcase kits/cymbal setups just because it's another thing that isn't as abundant as the big name companies.


I hope your pleased with the results. If not, you can send them back and get them re hammered, free of charge. Thats why I love the company!

Also, if your cymbals do turn out the way you want and you do make that gallery, be sure to include my set!

[dom]

i havent been to their site in a while. I just went and saw he dimond flat ride! i think that will be my next buy from them

[Synthetik]

I hope your pleased with the results. If not, you can send them back and get them re hammered, free of charge. Thats why I love the company!

Also, if your cymbals do turn out the way you want and you do make that gallery, be sure to include my set!

I have already started the gallery with a few entries. Kits will be accepted so long as there are only saluda cymbals visible. The other companies are already well known enough.

By this weekend, I should have several more entries.

[Konosuke]

Very nice cymbals! Especially the highhat picture

I was wondering if Saluda has brilliant cymbals with the mirror-like finish like Zildjian A Customs. Cuz if they do, i'll be glad to buy them :P

[Synthetik]

Very nice cymbals! Especially the highhat picture

I was wondering if Saluda has brilliant cymbals with the mirror-like finish like Zildjian A Customs. Cuz if they do, i'll be glad to buy them :P

They do make a line of brilliant finishes according to the product listing...but the pictures aren't up. they would likely be able to make anything they have in a brilliant finish.

I remember when Zildjians standard cymbal were the matt finish and brilliant was an option. Now brilliant is standard with machinery.

[fusssion]

Very nice cymbals! Especially the highhat picture

I was wondering if Saluda has brilliant cymbals with the mirror-like finish like Zildjian A Customs. Cuz if they do, i'll be glad to buy them :P

My crashes and splash are pretty bright, and their Diamond Series is most definately "brilliant". You can have a Diamond Finish, or Earthworks Finish put on any cymbal, even if it's from another series. For example,...my ride is not an Earthworks, it's a Mist-X, but I had an Earthworks finish put on it.

Call Jamie.........they are great!

[Konosuke]

Thanks guys, i'll be contacting Jamie

[Synthetik]

My "Saluda Owners Group" cymbal gallery is up.

http://www.synthetictubs.com/saluda_owners_gallery.htm

Lot's o' kits.

[AvengedDrummer]

Has anyone checked out their 2006 emperors edition line? I emailed Jamie with a trade proposal (I have a bunch of stuff lying around) and im getting a 20" ride! Didnt have to pay any upcharge!
Heres some photos from the site...
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e252/AlkalineDrummer/ee1s.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e252/AlkalineDrummer/13eehats1s.jpg
I like em raw.

[Synthetik]

My Saluda cymbals are in the DHL sorting facility in Atlanta, Georgia. I am hoping they make it to me on the 12th of December or Before.

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

So how do you like those Mist-X crashes? Any sound clips? I've already decided to get an 18" Mist-X medium crash next. I think it's the main crash I'm looking for. I'd also like to get a new thin crash at the same time.

[fusssion]

So how do you like those Mist-X crashes? Any sound clips? I've already decided to get an 18" Mist-X medium crash next. I think it's the main crash I'm looking for. I'd also like to get a new thin crash at the same time.

Sleepy,
Sorry to say, at this point, no, I don't have any sound clips yet of my cymbals but maybe soon, we'll see.

Whatever you do, tell Jamie exactly what you're looking for in a cymbal, what kind of sound you like, dislike, etc, etc..... I have found that I like the "full" crash,...my favorite out of my 3 is the 18" Full Crash he did for me. I'll be sending my "mellow" crash in for a 're-adjustment' because it's a bit too dark for the rest of the set-up. It's not necessarily that I don't like it, I just think it needs a tweak.

Don't get caught up on "thin" - "medium" - "medium-thin" ....it really doesn't matter much,....all that is manipulated to get the sound YOU want. Just tell him what you're looking for sound-wise and he'll make it!

You won't be dissapointed!

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

We had exchanged emails a while back, and I just shot him a new one last night. The sound clips I had heard of the Mist-X crashes he linked me to were great (especially the larger ones). I'm looking at the 18" and 16". I asked if he could make the 16" a tiny bit more complex, just to be slightly off but still very complementary to the 18". I also asked if I could trade in my two old B8s towards this purchase (20" Ride and 16" Thin Crash).

[fusssion]

We had exchanged emails a while back, and I just shot him a new one last night. The sound clips I had heard of the Mist-X crashes he linked me to were great (especially the larger ones). I'm looking at the 18" and 16". I asked if he could make the 16" a tiny bit more complex, just to be slightly off but still very complementary to the 18". I also asked if I could trade in my two old B8s towards this purchase (20" Ride and 16" Thin Crash).


What ? Mist-X have files now? I thought the only sound files on the web were Mist Brilliant files...which ARE definately a different cymbal....but still. I would do what he did for me, have him do the 18 in a full crash and the 16 in a mellow .....it'll be a little darker sounding but still work.....regardless, whatever you tell him, HE'LL DO !! :)

Report back soon!

[Synthetik]

I have heard a number of Mist brilliant recordings, they all sound very nice. I really appreciate the new engraved logo vs vinyl sticker.

My cymbals have made it to Ohio....

[AvengedDrummer]

I decided not to go with them. There seems to be something fishy going on. I was looking around on cymbalholic.com and they brought up the point that the Saluda Mist line and the wuhan S series are almost identicle....Some people think they're restamping Wuhans.
Anywho, Its not for me. You get what you pay for. Here's the thread if you want to check for yourself.

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12794&highlight=saluda

[Synthetik]

I decided not to go with them. There seems to be something fishy going on. I was looking around on cymbalholic.com and they brought up the point that the Saluda Mist line and the wuhan S series are almost identicle....Some people think they're restamping Wuhans.
Anywho, Its not for me. You get what you pay for. Here's the thread if you want to check for yourself.

http://www.cymbalholic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12794&highlight=saluda

That's totally untrue. Remember: cymbalholics are just netizens like anyone else, not a bastion of exclusive fact. (A good example is thier worship of paiste and the 2002 series, which I am indifferent to.)

(Maybe you need to read the whole post before saying the sky is falling)

Here is the Saluda reply:
I believe I have stated these exact details on this forum before but I will state everything again with some new details:

We purchase rough blanks from China and Turkey and then put the blanks through (what seems like) endless processes to turn these into Saluda cymbals. There is nothing relabeled about them. We do lathing and corrective hammering in our Orangeburg, SC location and then all finishes are applied at our Columbia, SC location (open to public). Eventually/hopefully, we will have a building large enough to handle all of our custom cymbal and drum crafting.

We are just getting into design work (done at the Columbia, SC location) with hammering. We are custom but we know we can offer much more. For 2007, we will start offering more custom designs that will take a cymbal out of its series. These will be true hybrids, which could feature a cymbal with half Hybrid X and half Emperor's Edition. Our first prototype from this system was made for Rich Galichon, which should be shipped tomorrow. It features a cross between a Mist Brilliant, Mist X, Diamond and Hybrid X all into one.

There is little difference between b20 bronze alloy and our guidelines to make our blanks from China or Turkey. However, many of those from Turkey tend to have this lower popping sound when initially struck. The popping sound is the best way I can describe it and I hear it common with many other Turkish based cymbals. There are many different ways to process b20 bronze, which I will mention that b20 bronze is b20 bronze. There is no other formula unless you add the 4th, secret ingredient which still doesn't change it from b20.

Until we can finance everything to make cymbals from raw materials, a goal by 2010, we will ALWAYS acknowledge, and always have, that we get our blanks from Turkey and China.

Why use 2 locations?

First, we have only found 2 reliable sources. We have tried others in 3 other countries. A little shocker, is our first Mists, all came from Turkey. This ran for about 1 year before this plant decided it would not sell to us anymore. We still have no clue what happened. We scrambled to find a new source for our cymbals. We found two plants in China and one plant made us a few samples but they weren't close to the samples we sent them. The 2nd plant made us samples to our specs and we have been using this plant ever since. However, in case things go wrong, which we learned the hard way, we know have a 2nd source in Turkey. The blanks from Turkey have been ongoing from 2004 but only recently have we started pulling in about 45% from this location.

We do what can to make our cymbals unique, sound as good as possible and look good as well. We have a plan to make them from scratch and someday that may be a reality.

We are still working on our site, which will never end, and we are planning on releasing a lot of photos and a few videos of our process (only basic processes). All of these should be integrated into the site within a few weeks/months.

By the way, I am the only one from Saluda who posts on forums.

A true cymbalholic! My story of how Saluda really began will be posted on our site soon, probably in the UnderWorld.

Any questions, email us at info@saludacymbals.com (info@saludacymbals.com)

Jamie

[AvengedDrummer]

Well, Just because Jamie says it doesnt make it true either. I did read the entire post, and many other posts about that company on many other sites. This seems to be to good to be true, and in most cases it usually is... By all means guys, if you like em, enjoy em! But, my money will be spent elsewhere.

BTW: I still dont see any differences between the wuhan and the saluda in that post. Their "endless processes" must be the exact same as wuhans'...

[Synthetik]

Well, Just because Jamie says it doesnt make it true either. I did read the entire post, and many other posts about that company on many other sites. This seems to be to good to be true, and in most cases it usually is... By all means guys, if you like em, enjoy em! But, my money will be spent elsewhere.

BTW: I still dont see any differences between the wuhan and the saluda in that post. Their "endless processes" must be the exact same as wuhans'...

Sounds like you are out to discredit them as well, the very reason you chimed in to this post.

Additional evidence? There are folks that live near Saluda that have driven there to pick up orders. There is a pearl forum thread on the same thing.

Regardless, they are not rebadged. They don't even sound like wuhans. That's live, or recorded.

Money will be wasted elsewhere you mean?

Must...conform...to...the...masses...must...not ...buy...anything....unless...it's...expensive...a nd...adveratised....in ...full...page....md ...ads....

If you got rid of all the hardware and drum stuff on your kit made in China, you might not have much left...

[AvengedDrummer]

Im not out to discredit them at all. A few posts up I was actually saying I wanted to do buisness with them. To be honest, I dont have any other evidence, but when there are that many rumors going around about a company, you cant just ignore them.
Usually most people conform to the masses because the masses know what sounds good. I've listened to their soundfiles and they just dont compare to The Bosphorus Turks, Zildjian K's, Istanbul Agops, and Paiste dark energies...
EDIT: I might just go through with the trade to hear one firsthand. Couple ZXT's and solars arent a loss. I might be pleasently surprised.

[franklinj]

Avenged- I thought like you did a while ago. I truly thought it was too good to be true. Well, I sent in $140 for a pair of hi hats, and hwne they came back, they were EXACTLY how I wanted them.

I was in New York over the summer, and was trying to find that "right" hi hat sound at Mannys Music; quick response, sharp stick response, not too sloshy, but not bright and annyoing. I combined a 13" A QuickBeat bottom with a Prototype K Dark Top. The result was quite nice, but the price was staggering. I asked Saluda if they could come up with a pair of hi hats that sounded like that- I gave them very specific instructions. One week later, perhaps the most beautiful set of hi hats ive ever seen came in, shiny, new. Well, they are probably the best sounding hats ive ever heard. This is not just my opinion, either. my drum teacher, who has played in countless sessions, bands, gigs, and has heard just about every hihat model you can think of, new and old. was interested in Saluda after we had discussed the company and their policies.I brought him my hi hats and compared them with an older pair of Sabian AA and AAX. Needless to say, the hats were on his drumset by the end of the lesson. He thought that they sounded incredible. Even the guys at GC, who are PAYED to say X model sounds good and Y model sounds bad, said that my hihats were amazing.

Give em' a try. Like you said, you may be pleasently surprised.

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

What ? Mist-X have files now? I thought the only sound files on the web were Mist Brilliant files...which ARE definately a different cymbal....but still. I would do what he did for me, have him do the 18 in a full crash and the 16 in a mellow .....it'll be a little darker sounding but still work.....regardless, whatever you tell him, HE'LL DO !! :)

Report back soon!

http://www.saludacymbals.com/c/rgalichon.php

It's a page on the Saluda site for one of their endorsers. The sound file is linked at the top of the page. The bigger crashes are the Mist-X's. I love em. Smooth and thick.

[franklinj]

Guess what im getting from Saluda?

2 low pitch octobans. Yay! I was going to get more cymbals, but realized that I liked hitting drums more than I like hitting cymbals...plus octobans are so much fun!

[dom]

Guess what im getting from Saluda?

2 low pitch octobans. Yay! I was going to get more cymbals, but realized that I liked hitting drums more than I like hitting cymbals...plus octobans are so much fun!

how is their pricing on the drum side of things? They do have some great looking drums.

[Synthetik]

Im not out to discredit them at all. A few posts up I was actually saying I wanted to do buisness with them. To be honest, I dont have any other evidence, but when there are that many rumors going around about a company, you cant just ignore them.
Usually most people conform to the masses because the masses know what sounds good. I've listened to their soundfiles and they just dont compare to The Bosphorus Turks, Zildjian K's, Istanbul Agops, and Paiste dark energies...
EDIT: I might just go through with the trade to hear one firsthand. Couple ZXT's and solars arent a loss. I might be pleasently surprised.

1. You lend creedence to secondhand, malicous garbage on the net but not firsthand owners and visitors to the company, nor the company itelf?

2. I own Istanbul, alchemy, bosphorus and have owned plenty of high end cymbals from zildjian and sabian. I <- (that's me, firsthand account) am telling you the saludas do hold thier own against any of the "big four" so the statement you made is not only baseless, it comes from zero firsthand evidence.

3. Usually people conform to the masses because they have no idea, and no will of thier own to try anything except what's mainstream.

If I stuck to the mainstream, you think I'd have a whole website dedicated to superior or at least equal alternatives?

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

Woo!

Heard back from Jamie. Looks like I will have some new Saludas in a few weeks. :) I can't wait.

For those of you who have traded in old cymbals, what is the best way to pack them up for the mail?

[Synthetik]

Woo!

Heard back from Jamie. Looks like I will have some new Saludas in a few weeks. :) I can't wait.

For those of you who have traded in old cymbals, what is the best way to pack them up for the mail?

I used supermarket boxes and lots of wadded paper.

[fusssion]

Avenged....

Give it a chance!! Trust me......

Jamie IS Saluda cymbals....why would he lie? Synthetic has first hand experience of people who has gone to Saluda to pick up their cymbals. Heck, Jamie admitted they DO BUY blanks from china and turkey ......listen....I have a whole brand new set of them....THEY'RE amazing!!

And.... I've heard the Wuhan S series....they DON"T sound ANYTHING like Saludas...Saludas are much louder and brighter,...more cutting....

Give 'em a shot!!! :)

[franklinj]

how is their pricing on the drum side of things? They do have some great looking drums.

Theyre octobans are a little pricey since theyre made out of wood, but Jamie cut me a pretty sweet deal.

[AvengedDrummer]

Ok, I took the bait. The cymbals go out this weekend. Im getting a brand spankin new Emperors Edition 20" ride (Picture posted earlier in thread). No upcharge, just unloading alot of ZXT's and solars for it. And, If I like it, I'll admit defeat. But, the Bosphorus turk hats and my flat top K stays. ;-)

[Synthetik]

My Saludas just arrived. Pics soon.

[franklinj]

My Saludas just arrived. Pics soon.

...

How do you like them?

...

[GRUNTERSDAD]

Woo!

Heard back from Jamie. Looks like I will have some new Saludas in a few weeks. :) I can't wait.

For those of you who have traded in old cymbals, what is the best way to pack them up for the mail?

When I bought mine from cymbalfusion, he sent me my new ones in a HardCase, then in a box, and I put mine in the same Hardcase and put a label on the same box and returned them.

[Synthetik]

...

How do you like them?

...


Preliminarily: Overall, they are brighter and *MUCH* more powerful than Istanbul cymbals. They look BRILLIANT, and they exude complexity, but with massive power!

Holy cow....I mean....WOW!!! These are better than the original mist I heard!

These are not my first choice for a pure jazz setting. They'd be considered too bright and powerful. But they seem to be awesome for almost anything else. I'd go for earthworks series for jazz. These things are monsters!

have added some quick pics to my website. Not perfect, and not in a group. But here they are:

http://www.synthetictubs.com/my_kit.htm (http://www.synthetictubs.com/my_kit.htm)

Also, I have added some words of wisdom to my "Saluda Owners Group" page:

http://www.synthetictubs.com/saluda_owners_gallery.htm (http://www.synthetictubs.com/saluda_owners_gallery.htm)

[jjolddahgoo]

Very nice choice with those Saludas man. Saluda rocks my socks! Harhar. But really, I love Saluda (my hats are awesome!)

[Synthetik]

Very nice choice with those Saludas man. Saluda rocks my socks! Harhar. But really, I love Saluda (my hats are awesome!)

Transcript of your avatar's sound:

"Ahh... shhhhhhh...ahhh....shhhhh..."

[dom]

Ok, I took the bait. The cymbals go out this weekend. Im getting a brand spankin new Emperors Edition 20" ride (Picture posted earlier in thread). No upcharge, just unloading alot of ZXT's and solars for it. And, If I like it, I'll admit defeat. But, the Bosphorus turk hats and my flat top K stays. ;-)

sweet be sure to write up a review as soon as you get it!

[fusssion]

Ok, I took the bait. The cymbals go out this weekend. Im getting a brand spankin new Emperors Edition 20" ride (Picture posted earlier in thread). No upcharge, just unloading alot of ZXT's and solars for it. And, If I like it, I'll admit defeat. But, the Bosphorus turk hats and my flat top K stays. ;-)

Avenged,....I'm glad you did......

Make sure you tell Jamie the EXACT sound you're looking for...trust me....you're going to be happy .......they are nice nice nice!!

Write a review when you get it ....report back!

[Konosuke]

Avenged,....I'm glad you did......

Make sure you tell Jamie the EXACT sound you're looking for...trust me....you're going to be happy .......they are nice nice nice!!

Write a review when you get it ....report back!

How do i tell what kind of sound i want, what kind of words did you guys use?

Like Long sustain, bright sound? or what hahaha

[Synthetik]

Well, I specified:

Sound like a Zildjian A-custom medium thin. Quick and crisp, but with body.

China: bright trashy sound, and a dark trashy sound.

Hats: strong, full chick sound, nice slosh but crisp with bright cut.

The Saluda cymbal set I received are totally amazing. They deliver everything I was after.

[JoshRead]

I don't know if any of you have any experience with the regular Mist series, but I'm going to be getting a pair of 14" Mist Rock Hats (which I believe might be discontinued now), and I'm wondering how they compare to the Mist Brilliant hats? I just heard the Mist Brilliants on the soundfile of that Rich guy and they sound AMAZING!

Thanks for any help.

[fusssion]

I don't know if any of you have any experience with the regular Mist series, but I'm going to be getting a pair of 14" Mist Rock Hats (which I believe might be discontinued now), and I'm wondering how they compare to the Mist Brilliant hats? I just heard the Mist Brilliants on the soundfile of that Rich guy and they sound AMAZING!

Thanks for any help.

Mist Brilliants aren't as bright as Mist-X's .....but are still very nice....listend to the sound files they have on their site.

My hi-hat top is a Mist Brilliant, paired with a Mist-X wavy bottom hat

[franklinj]

I don't know if any of you have any experience with the regular Mist series, but I'm going to be getting a pair of 14" Mist Rock Hats (which I believe might be discontinued now), and I'm wondering how they compare to the Mist Brilliant hats? I just heard the Mist Brilliants on the soundfile of that Rich guy and they sound AMAZING!

Thanks for any help.

I like the mist series, too. However, the Diamond series is my favorite so far. My hats and ride sound soooo amazing. I love them to death.

[AvengedDrummer]

Well, I shipped my cymbals wednesday. I cant wait for the ride to get here. How long does he usually take once he gets your stuff?

[dom]

it is usually a week or maybe 2

[JoshRead]

So, Fusssion, where's that sound file we were looking foward to?

[fusssion]

Avenged, it shouldn't take a week or two for your cymbal to show up. Jamie had a few of mine made before my cymbals even showed up, so if it's only one cymbal, it may be a quick turn around.

He usually sends stuff back DHL and has taken 2 days to get to me both times! :)

Josh: Sorry,...but we've been practicing and recording a demo CD and there's been no time to get something yet. I'll work on it though.....sorry

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

Mine shipped out today so hopefully they'll be here by the weekend! Can't wait!

[fusssion]

Mine shipped out today so hopefully they'll be here by the weekend! Can't wait!

Should be there in 2 days.....your post was on the 18th........TODAY IS THE DAY SLEEPY!!!

Report back please!!!!!!!

[AvengedDrummer]

Mine should be here any day now aswell...

[fusssion]

Mine should be here any day now aswell...

YOU REPORT BACK TOO MR. SKEPTICAL!! ;)

[dom]

YOU REPORT BACK TOO MR. SKEPTICAL!! ;)

haha i agree though i really want to hear what he thinks about the Emperor ride. Im pretty sure he is the first here at drummer world to order one of those. I want one they look great!

[tamadrummer132]

how can i contact a guy from saluda?

im interested

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

Yes, my Saludas arrived today! However, I received a 16" Diamond instead of a 16" Mist-X. I did ask for my 16" to be a little trashy, and I suppose maybe Jamie thought the Diamond would better fit, but it's just too trashy I think for my style. I'm going to see if I can send that one back and get the 16" Mist-X I had originally asked for.

The 18" Mist-X that I have is very nice. It fills the low-mid crash range very well, but I still need a higher crash (what I wanted in my 16). So I'm very happy but also a little disappointed since I'll have to pack one up and ship it off to be swapped out. It could have been a mistake, but I would have liked to have been told before hand if it was done on purpose.

The Diamond seems so thin... is this normal for the Diamond line? Just meant for light jazz playing I imagine? Also, for anyone who had asked, the black Saluda logos appear to be a vinyl stick on, like vinyl signs. I like the engraved logos. I don't know why they bother putting the black ones on.

[dom]

how can i contact a guy from saluda?

im interested

info@saludacymbals.com

[fusssion]

Yes, my Saludas arrived today! However, I received a 16" Diamond instead of a 16" Mist-X. I did ask for my 16" to be a little trashy, and I suppose maybe Jamie thought the Diamond would better fit, but it's just too trashy I think for my style. I'm going to see if I can send that one back and get the 16" Mist-X I had originally asked for.

The 18" Mist-X that I have is very nice. It fills the low-mid crash range very well, but I still need a higher crash (what I wanted in my 16). So I'm very happy but also a little disappointed since I'll have to pack one up and ship it off to be swapped out. It could have been a mistake, but I would have liked to have been told before hand if it was done on purpose.

The Diamond seems so thin... is this normal for the Diamond line? Just meant for light jazz playing I imagine? Also, for anyone who had asked, the black Saluda logos appear to be a vinyl stick on, like vinyl signs. I like the engraved logos. I don't know why they bother putting the black ones on.

Always stay in communication with Jamie. 803-776-6898, just call him. If you asked for trashy, ....the Mist-X is NOT the ticket....that's "probably" why he sent you a Diamond.
Give him a call...it'll cost you $6 to get EXACLTY what you want......it's not so bad...hey remember.....you're getting custom!! :)

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

We've kept good through email. I wanted my 16" Mist-X to be slightly trashy but still sound nice with the 18" Mist-X. The Diamond is just too much. It's a cool effect cymbal, but not what I had in mind. I'm waiting to hear back.

[fusssion]

We've kept good through email. I wanted my 16" Mist-X to be slightly trashy but still sound nice with the 18" Mist-X. The Diamond is just too much. It's a cool effect cymbal, but not what I had in mind. I'm waiting to hear back.

This may be the only downfall to buying cymbals over the phone. The cool thing is....it's a customized process, but to get that sometimes, there needs to be some tweaking. In Jamie's 'ears' the 16 and 18 did work well together, one trashy, one not,.....in your ears, it's different. It'll all be good.

I've sent back 2 cymbals also, one I got back, and the other one (splash) is coming today!!! I can't wait!! It's a pain....but it's also fun in a way because it's all a part of that "customization" process!!

Hey, by the way....what kind of 18" crash did you get ?? Medium-thin? full? etc/??

[Mike Firth]

I'm thinking about getting a 19" Mist-X and a VooDoo 18" China.

Saludas have always interested me.

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

My 18" is the Mist-X Medium Crash. It's very full sounding and responsive at low volume.

I had a chance to play my kit more today and that Diamond is starting to grow on me. I'm not using it the way I had originally intended to use my higher crash. Instead, I'm learning how the Diamond works within the scope of my kit. I may just keep it instead of swapping it out. Down the road I'd still like to get a higher pitched crash, but I may be able to make this work.

[fusssion]

I'm thinking about getting a 19" Mist-X and a VooDoo 18" China.

Saludas have always interested me.


I have a 19 Voodoo and they are very very nice!!! I can't speak for the Mist-X, but I highly doubt you'd be dissapointed!

[JoshRead]

I got my Saluda rock hats! They're amazing. They'll take a little getting used to a different sound but so far so good.

[tommapex]

I got my Saluda rock hats! They're amazing. They'll take a little getting used to a different sound but so far so good.

Those Mist X hats are beautiful!!! What kind of sound are you getting out of them?

[JoshRead]

Those Mist X hats are beautiful!!! What kind of sound are you getting out of them?

They have nice, crisp, clean stick definition, good chick, REALLY loud when opened up! I like them a lot, and, yes, they are beautiful looking!

[dom]

josh are they Mist Brilliant hats or Mist-X, rock hats? the hammering looks a bit diffrent than my mist-x hats. Glad you like them i know i love mine

[JoshRead]

It actually has a Mist Brilliant top and a Mist-X bottom.

[AvengedDrummer]

So, apparently he's sending me a "Black Mist" now and not an Emperors Edition...funny.

[dom]

So, apparently he's sending me a "Black Mist" now and not an Emperors Edition...funny.

did they just change the name, or is the black mist a diffrent cymbal? on the pearl drum forum jamie was getting a lot of flack because emperors edition and remo emperors. so maybe he has decided to change the name

i could be wrong and probably am but thats just a thought

[fusssion]

It actually has a Mist Brilliant top and a Mist-X bottom.

that's what Jamie did for mine too,....they aren't Rock hats, but I do have a Mist Brilliant top and Mist-X wavy bottom!

[fusssion]

So, apparently he's sending me a "Black Mist" now and not an Emperors Edition...funny.

How did you find this out,.......I'd just call him and ask. He's almost always there and very willing to talk and answer questions!

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

The Emperor line is now Black Mist. I was thinking of an Emperor ride and that's what I was told. I'm going for two Earthworks rides.

[fusssion]

The Emperor line is now Black Mist. I was thinking of an Emperor ride and that's what I was told. I'm going for two Earthworks rides.


There, it's settled,......thanks Sleepy. Just a name change.........

What are you looking for in the Earthworks....are they "earthworks" or are they a different series w/ the earthworks finish?

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

With both rides I'm looking for a very defined bell sound. I want a 21" rock ride- cutting with decent sustain. I want a 20" dry ride (debating weather to make it medium or heavy) that has great tone but minimum sustain (kind of like my K Custom Session ride). Jamie said the rock ride could come from the Mist-X or Earthworks line and the dry ride could be from a lot of series, so I figured I'd just match it up with the other ride. I haven't had a chance to write Jamie back with the refinement. I'm also looking to add a 17" Mist-X crash and 15" Mist-X hats probably with a ripple bottom. That will be the next phase of my cymbal upgrade.

I already have an 18" Mist-X crash and 16" Diamond crash. The third ride I wanted they don't have anything like yet, but Jamie said it's probably coming soon. That would be a 22" very light ride, kind of like the Bosphorus Antique. When they can make my third ride, I want to pick up another small Diamond crash and a couple splash cymbals.

[AvengedDrummer]

I haven't heard anything about the line name being changed. (It's still emperors edition on the site) I asked for an emperors edition and he said that it would be blacker in color, and to call it a black mist. Which then leads me to ask, If Emperors Edition cymbals are unlathed, then what the hell does color have to do with it?

[fusssion]

I haven't heard anything about the line name being changed. (It's still emperors edition on the site) So what? When have you ever seen a website update itself simultaneously? :)

I asked for an emperors edition and he said that it would be blacker in color, and to call it a black mist. Which then leads me to ask, If Emperors Edition cymbals are unlathed, then what the hell does color have to do with it? Unlathed from a slug, w/ hammering marks, the slugs are dark, darker, I believe that is where he's getting the word "Black".

If you ask him, he'll tell you. I'm going to try to get Jamie on here to help out w/ questions from time to time.

Don't worry Avenged, you're going to get what you asked for!

[AvengedDrummer]

Well, I got it. And, It's...unique. haha. Its big. And heavy. And most definately is impossible for any kind of jazz playing. It's too one dimensional. It would probably work well in a electronic/breakbeat genre, where a metallic sound like this is needed though. I'll keep it though. If not for playing, it'll make a good conversation piece.

[fusssion]

Well, I got it. And, It's...unique. haha. Its big. And heavy. And most definately is impossible for any kind of jazz playing. It's too one dimensional. It would probably work well in a electronic/breakbeat genre, where a metallic sound like this is needed though. I'll keep it though. If not for playing, it'll make a good conversation piece.


What did you ask for? I know without even having them/one, that an Emporers Edition or now, a Black Mist cymbal IS IN FACT heavy.

So, what did you ask for?

[AvengedDrummer]

I just asked for a 20" Emperors Edition ride. I didnt have him make one up.

[fusssion]

I just asked for a 20" Emperors Edition ride. I didnt have him make one up.


Then, you got exactly what you asked for....sorry it didn't work out, but ....that's what happened.

If you asked Jamie for a ride for jazz w/ an x-y-z type of sound, etc, etc, etc....then this might be different.

[AvengedDrummer]

Well, it said on the site that the rides were well suited for jazz, of course now it says something completely different but, nobody is going to believe that. Sorry guys, you may like em', but Im sticking to the trusted, time tested brands. I might send this guy to Johan for a little Belgian magic though.

[fusssion]

Well, it said on the site that the rides were well suited for jazz, of course now it says something completely different but, nobody is going to believe that. Sorry guys, you may like em', but Im sticking to the trusted, time tested brands. I might send this guy to Johan for a little Belgian magic though.

Your'e right, we won't believe it because it's just not true. The Emporers Edition (Black Mist) never said that they're well suited for jazz. Check out my link, notice the NAME of the link is still emporers edition, but i'll take you to the Black Mist (renamed) series. The only thing that was changed in the description of the cymbals is the "updated for 2007"...and he changed "emporers edition to black mist". But it's the same write up besides that, and it does not say anwhere that it's suited for jazz. AND when you click on the "black mist cymbal gallery" ....it still says Emporers Edition.

http://www.saludacymbals.com/c/emperorsedition2.php

Don't apologize. You don't like it because you didn't order what you wanted. No big deal here. So far as I can tell, everyone on this site that has these cymbals, love them!

[AvengedDrummer]

Im not going to draw this out into a long battle over a cymbal, but I was looking for a jazz ride, in the description it said it was suited for jazz. Go ahead and believe what you want, but if it had said what it says now, I wouldnt have ordered it. I have some other unlathed turks that are absolutely amazing for jazz. I was just going by their product description.

[fusssion]

Im not going to draw this out into a long battle over a cymbal, but I was looking for a jazz ride, in the description it said it was suited for jazz. Go ahead and believe what you want, Nothing to believe, it is what it is, and it's in my response before.


but if it had said what it says now, I wouldnt have ordered it. I have some other unlathed turks that are absolutely amazing for jazz. I was just going by their product description. Again.....same description, different cymbal name.

I will call Jamie and confirm this though......

Sorry it didn't work out. It's a shame, ...they DO sound way better the "big 3", hands down.

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

I think you would have been better with a Diamond ride. Those are advertised as good for jazz, and I think they are. I have a Diamond crash that is very complex and sweet sounding. At first it was so different to my ears, but it is nice. I'd love to try that Black Mist ride of yours. I imagine it sounds like hitting the side of a water tank or something.

[AvengedDrummer]

I'd love to try that Black Mist ride of yours. I imagine it sounds like hitting the side of a water tank or something.

Haha, Pretty close. I'll upload some pics and maybe a soundfile within the next hour.

[AvengedDrummer]

Here we go.....
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e252/AlkalineDrummer/HPIM0755.jpg
I thinking of just whacking it to see what this thing sounds like UNLEASHED! bwahahaha She will now be referred to as "Bertha" as in Big Bertha. Give it a few days, I may grow to like her. It takes awhile to get to know a new pie. EDIT: I whacked it. People cried. My dogs ran off... She's a beast.

[dom]

Here we go.....
I thinking of just whacking it to see what this thing sounds like UNLEASHED! bwahahaha She will now be referred to as "Bertha" as in Big Bertha. Give it a few days, I may grow to like her. It takes awhile to get to know a new pie. EDIT: I whacked it. People cried. My dogs ran off... She's a beast.

hurray i was right about the name change, the new glory cymbals look great now i have no idea what to go for.

Anyways has bertha being a beast been good or bad thing for you?

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

Personally I would love to have a cymbal that sounds like my water tank. heheh! Maybe not for my main ride, but a cool effect cymbal. I'm always beating on stuff to see what it sounds like. My brother in law swears I'll be able to mount all of my children's toys to my kit some day. I hope he's right.

[AvengedDrummer]

Well, I must admit it is growing on me. It certainly isn't jazzy, She's a cymbal that makes serial killers cry. Ive got it set up next to my main ride, a K flat top as you can see in the background of the pic, and it's a pretty cool combo.

[franklinj]

Well, it said on the site that the rides were well suited for jazz, of course now it says something completely different but, nobody is going to believe that. Sorry guys, you may like em', but Im sticking to the trusted, time tested brands. I might send this guy to Johan for a little Belgian magic though.

Contact Jamie and tell him what you want. Ship it back to them with a better description of what you really want in the ride and they should be able to give you what you need.

After all, you did contact a CUSTOM cymbal company without a description. That would be like contacting DW and saying "give me a Collectors drum" and then telling everyone that you really wanted a snare, not a bass drum.

[fusssion]

Well, I must admit it is growing on me. It certainly isn't jazzy, She's a cymbal that makes serial killers cry. Ive got it set up next to my main ride, a K flat top as you can see in the background of the pic, and it's a pretty cool combo.


That's good to hear! Let it grow on you some more, see how much more you'd like it.

By the way I did speak with Jamie on the way home from work on Friday and what I said in my response was correct. I did not mention our conversation here, but just asked, "would an emporers edition (black mist) ride be suitable for jazz?" Without hesitation he said, "no ...it's too heavy." Then I asked about the website write up, and he confirmed that the info on the write up for the emporers/black mist line is in fact the same as it always was, ..it never said it was a jazz type cymbal. The only thing he changed were some "names" of finishes and the cymbal line itself.

I then told him about your situation....he said to tell you that if you don't like it, they can get you something you DO like and want, just send it back. Just so you know....

Anyhow,...glad it's growing on you.........get us a sound file when you can!

[fusssion]

hurray i was right about the name change, the new glory cymbals look great now i have no idea what to go for.



By the way, here is the scoop on the name change. The "emporers edition" line was the prototype name for the cymbal, ...they had every intention of re-naming it "black mist" once the line was complete. But at the end of the day, yes, ...name change.

Dom, ....it looks like "Glory" series will be a Mist-X and a Black-Mist combo .....darker than the Mist-X, ...but brighter than the Black Mist.

Just call Jamie and let him know EXACTLY what you're looking for, even if you want to compare a current "brand X" cymbal to the sound you want.....they'll figure it out! :)

[franklinj]

Guess what arrived in the mail today? A new Emperors (or Black Mist or w/e) 10" splash. The thing was beautiful; unfortunately (or fortunately, depending how you look at it), it was a gift for my teacher, so I didnt get much of a chance to play it. He loves it though. He thought it was one of the nicest gifts anyone gave to him.

[tommapex]

Guess what arrived in the mail today? A new Emperors (or Black Mist or w/e) 10" splash. The thing was beautiful; unfortunately (or fortunately, depending how you look at it), it was a gift for my teacher, so I didnt get much of a chance to play it. He loves it though. He thought it was one of the nicest gifts anyone gave to him.


Awesome gift!!! I wish someone would give me one. Hint, hint......

[fusssion]

Hey guys.....although I don't have any sound or video yet.......we had our first show since the Saluda's arrived.

2 words ... HOLY CRAP!!!

Literally knives cutting through it all! They were amazing! My bandmates freaked, audience members (non drummers) were saying...."kit sounded great, especially your cymbals,....so clean and up front!"

I could NOT be happier folks!!
Hi hats- crisp and defined, cutting yet musical
Crashes - FORGET IT! Anything you wanted,....THEY DID it ...and more! From little light crashes in Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb (beginning), to riding the 18" Mist-X Rock Crash in Van Halen's DREAMS ....wow!
Chinese,....perfect
Ride ...delicious!
Splash-....CUTTING!! Like super sharp paper with alloy in it....amazing!

Very happy all.....very happy!!

I loved my Zildjians......but there is NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER! None!

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

I hear ya man! I had my first band practice with mine last Sunday and I was really happy. I can't wait to get the rest of them to have a complete set.

[kung_f00]

Sorry if I'm hijacking, but I figured this would be a good place to ask a question.

Although I had my heart set on finding the perfect crash/ride for my Bosphorus setup, I was ebaying and came across some Saluda cymbals that I think might work out nicely for me -- well priced, too! The cymbal in question is a SSXD 18" Light Ride. Now, I don't really know much about Saluda, but from what you guys have reported, they seem like a good company with some fantastic "pro-level" cymbals.

If anyone has an experience with the SSXD line (now apparently discontinued) or the afforementioned cymbal, I would really appreciate some feedback because this could be a really nice addition to my kit. Thanks!

[fusssion]

kung_f00,

I'd email or call Jamie. Sorry bud, I can't help you with those........not aware of them. Tell Jamie what you're looking for, he'll hook you up......and let you knwo if it'll be close

[JoshRead]

Well, the SSX line was Saluda's "entry-level" line. Although better than ZBT's, B8's, etc., they still aren't amazing. Now that they're discontinued, all of Saluda's current lines are pro-quality.

[fatedrummer]

hey man, nice cymbals

I was wondering what do the Saluda cymbals compare to. I am about ready to buy some hi hats, and I was a low price, and saluda seems to be the company. what would a mist-x hat compart too.

Mist-X....?
Voodoo...?
Diamond...?

PLEASE HELP!!!

[hauk]

hey man, nice cymbals

I was wondering what do the Saluda cymbals compare to. I am about ready to buy some hi hats, and I was a low price, and saluda seems to be the company. what would a mist-x hat compart too.

Mist-X....?
Voodoo...?
Diamond...?

PLEASE HELP!!!

well, lets see:
Mist-X's are in the kind of A Custom range
Voodoo's are just chinas, so no real series comparison there that i can think of
and Diamond's are Saluda's jazzier, darker cymbals, so think Ks or HHs

[fusssion]

well, lets see:
Mist-X's are in the kind of A Custom range
Voodoo's are just chinas, so no real series comparison there that i can think of
and Diamond's are Saluda's jazzier, darker cymbals, so think Ks or HHs

That's about it right there!!

You won't be dissapointed!