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ZDrums24
11-09-2006, 05:32 PM
so i did a search for this and came up with nothing.

a friend and i were discussing going to india for a while at some point during our college careers (music ed majors...go figure) and the first step in doing this is knowing where you need to go. india is huge. i was wondering if anybody knew the better parts of india to go to if you want to experience their music in the fullest. i know steve smith has been going over there a bit for this reason.

jamndrummer
11-09-2006, 06:52 PM
Hi ZDrums24,
I have asked this question recently too. I work with a friend who is from India. She is checking out the information for me and actually getting some of their music. Once she gets this information to me I will gladly share it with drummer world folks. I seen Steve Smith present this type of drumming culture most recently. Its alot to do with learning the language, they speak on the drum with the words and in turn end up with what we know to be rythmns....Ill keep you posted.

insane drummer
11-09-2006, 07:45 PM
I have enjoyed Indian music for a while now (from a distance that is), I am lucky enough to have a good local Indian Arts society (New Orleans Indian Arts Circle) that brings in Indian artists for performances (I recently saw Purbayan Chaterjee and Subhankar Banerjee preform some amazing Hindustani music (the concert lasted over 3 hours) I know little about India itself, but you might see if such a thing exists in your area. They did a rather good job of explaining the music before they played and they would, I am sure, have knowledge of India.

Also, are you more into their folk music or their classical?

Garvin
11-09-2006, 07:55 PM
Check out www.petelockett.com and www.aacm.org. These are 2 extremely good web-sites specifically for Tabla info... Also, I wrote a paper on East Indian Classical music a few years ago. Maybe I can scan it into a PDF and get that out to you as well.

DrumMasterDave
11-09-2006, 09:02 PM
Garvin, Nice links. I have experimented a bit with the tablas myself, and am amazed at how young some east indian players are!

ZDrums24
11-10-2006, 12:30 AM
thanks guys, this is about the best response ive gotten from this site. ill check the links and would greatly appreciate any kind of information that jamndrummer comes up with (though if it gets lost in the daily mess, ill understand).

thanks again.

RudimentalDrummer
11-10-2006, 05:05 AM
To learn Indian Music, first you need to speak a little Indian, eat Indian Food, take lots of Curry (to get fire up), learn how to ride an Elephant and lastly get an Indian Girlfriend....kekekeke !...Nah I'm just joking here.

I have friends in the Drum Circle who went specially to India just to learn the Tabla for 2 months (It's a She). I understand Tabla helps in our Drumming too from them.

runj0
07-20-2007, 09:02 PM
talk to my teacher (who teaches and is professor at Princeton University) Mr. John Arrucci. He went to Beneras to do a fellowship on the tabla. He is a genius

www.johnarrucci.com

thanks

aydee
05-11-2008, 01:56 PM
india is huge.

It is much bigger than one thinks.

a friend and i were discussing going to india for a while at some point during our college careers (music ed majors...go figure) and the first step in doing this is knowing where you need to go.

India is huge, and you have to decide exactly what you are going there for. If it is to learn the tabla, it would be best to stick to the major cities of Delhi, Bombay, Cacutta, Chennai.

It would also make sense to with the help of your friend, research, identify, and make contact with a good teacher, before you set out. Indian music if taught well, is sort of mentored rather than taught, and the 'right ' teachers are great asset to learn from.
With the so many American & European students wanting to venture into the strange & exotic world of Indian music, be wary of the scammers & hustlers abound pretending to be great teachers. God knows there are enough in the US itself. ( Just look little harder, they are there. A good way to judge will be to discover that they aren't dying to teach you. You'll have to persuade them )


i was wondering if anybody knew the better parts of india to go to if you want to experience their music in the fullest.

Different parts of India has very different music, which then is further sub-divided into classical, folk, traditional, devotional etc.If you are serious students of music, delve a little deeper into what exactly you want to experience.

India is very rich in its musical heritage & very diverse. What the western ear hears as INDIAN MUSIC is like lumping, Mozart, John Coltrane, Elvis Presley and Jimi Hendrix together and calling it WESTERN MUSIC. Or all Latin music ,SAMBA.




i know steve smith has been going over there a bit for this reason.

Steve actually goes to Germany to learn from a tabla maestro, Trilok Gurtu turned him on to. His friend Zakir turned him on to the concept of Indian rhythm, which is pretty evident in his work with Vital Information

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harryconway
05-11-2008, 11:02 PM
Makes sense to me Aydee knows what he's talkin' about, since he lives there. Or does that say Indiana, and I just need glasses.

aydee
05-12-2008, 03:43 AM
. Or does that say Indiana, and I just need glasses.

Your eyes are fine, buddy, it does say India, and that's half of where I'm from. ; )

rootheart
05-12-2008, 07:11 PM
I like india food, but I have no idea about indian music.
If it is about how to learn to comply indian rhythm ideas into contemporary western set drumming you might wanna check this:
Step 1:
check this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ODoFoLjaess
Step 2:
Get Steve Smith´s latest album:
Vital Information - Vitalization (2007) - Jazz\Steve Smith -Vital Information - Vitalization (2007) - Jazz..... and listen to the first track of this album.
Step 3: compare step 2 with step 1 over and over
Step 4: Get Steve Smith´s really cool and easy to understand tutorial video "Part 2".
Step 5: Listen very close and simply practise what the man says in his video about "odd groupings over the barline"

Disclaimer: After getting down step 5 your brain will be turned upside down, you might not be able to play a straight "Tom Petty Song" anymore, and maybe you will get into some trouble with your fellow musicians.

aydee
05-12-2008, 07:15 PM
I like india food, but I have no idea about indian music.
If it is about how to learn to comply indian rhythm ideas into contemprary western set drumming you might wanna check this:
Step 1:
check this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ODoFoLjaess
Step 2:
Get Steve Smith´s latest album:
Vital Information - Vitalization (2007) - Jazz\Steve Smith -Vital Information - Vitalization (2007) - Jazz..... and listen to the first track of this album.
Step 3: compare step 2 with step 1 over and over
Step 4: Get Steve Smith´s really cool and easy to understand tutorial video "Part 2".
Step 5: Listen very close and simply practise what the man says in his video about "odd groupings over the barline"

Disclaimer: After getting down step 5 your brain will be turned upside down, you might not be able to play a straight "Tom Petty Song" anymore, and maybe you will get into some trouble with your fellow musicians.

great clip!



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aydee
06-10-2008, 02:04 PM
Here's a wild young 'Zitar player' playing with Mclaughlin, and my bud, Ranjit Barot.

Old Doc Yak
06-10-2008, 09:54 PM
Try to get some Ravi Shankar - one of the great sitarists.

jamndrummer
06-12-2008, 07:21 PM
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thanks guys, this is about the best response ive gotten from this site. ill check the links and would greatly appreciate any kind of information that jamndrummer comes up with (though if it gets lost in the daily mess, ill understand).

Sorry forgot about this post. Ill try to publish some songs off a CD I got from India. Once I do Ill send the link for you all to download them.

priji
06-17-2008, 01:30 PM
Many Many different legend have grown up in Indian Musics. Like vocal music, Instrumental music and dance. i like sitar and tabala. Sitar is played in north indian classical musics.
Ravi shankar have a famous this instrument around the world. I like Zakir Hussain, he is one of the greatest Tabalist.