Tre' Cool [Archive] - DRUMMERWORLD OFFICIAL DISCUSSION FORUM

LiquidSoul546

07-05-2005, 08:41 AM

Raymond Bloom

07-05-2005, 12:37 PM

woah, u sayed it really as it is...

Most of people Who start threads about him says ''Tre is the best'' ''Tre is absolutely the greatest''

I bet he is a good drummer, no doubt, he is probably well trained and so, but YES he is being endorsed just because he has got lucky to get in a popular band, there are loats of drummers with similar skill lvl and even better but they just ain't popular.

DrZoidberg[ITA]

07-05-2005, 01:45 PM

Maybe his tempos are simple because is their genre simple.. What Greenday(s) do are sipmle riff made of some chords and so they request a simple groove or just a permanent 4/4.. I never heard him play something without the band so i can't tell if he isn't really a good drummer or not..

Wegadrummer

07-05-2005, 02:25 PM

yeah... a good example is the drummer for Him too.. he is not so good, but since the band are popular,he is sponsored..

NUTHA JASON

07-05-2005, 02:39 PM

this is always a debate that cmes up on drumming forums eventually. and the real question is: what is a good or great drummer?

for myself i define it as follows:

good drummers:
-play for the song whether it is simple or complex.
-hold a good groove down and keep the beat.
-select tasteful fills, intros and endings.
-have a balanced amount of impressive flash and workday rhythm
there are many thousands of good drummers. it is actually quite easy to be a good drummer. i am certainly one.

great drummers:
- first of all are all the characteristcs of good drummers
-they innovate new techniques or combine old principles in novel ways
-they find an unusual way to play for a song that still works perfectly but tdoes not detract or distract the song.
-they are exceptionally flashy when they need to be. almost inuman in speed or agility.
-they teach and help the art of percussion grow
-very often they are temporaly located (i e they are great because of what they did WHEN they did it...other better drummers have come along and taken their ideas forward but they are great because they came up with the idea in the first place)

in terms of all this tre cool is a good drummer (very good in my opinion) but ringo is a great drummer because he fits more into this categorisation above.

j

Bernhard

07-05-2005, 02:47 PM

My words Nutha....

and don't forget:

10000 drummers were getting better because they listened to Steve Gadd - that's great.

...but 2 Million people started drumming because of Ringo - that's great too.

So when somebodey starts drumming because of T.C or T.B. or J.J. - that's great.

To make progress they can listen then to Josh Freese, Will Kennedy, Bobby Jarzombek, Adam Deitch, Mark Mondesir, Ari Hoenig, Joel Rosenblatt or Stanton Moore...to name a few.

(That's why Tre Cool, T.B and J.J. found their spotlight on DW)

Bernhard

Superlow

07-05-2005, 07:20 PM

Tre Cool is a great drummer for his genre. I listened to Green Day about 10 Years ago when they came out with Dookie and Kerplunk perviously. Tre Cool was an animal back then and is animal now. Although he isn't exactly rewriting drum history with making up complex and intricate rhythms he does really well what appeals to most drummers and non-drummers alike. He plays simple yet catchy rhythms and plays with a good pocket.

tylernator

07-05-2005, 07:25 PM

if you all think that about Tre' Cool...then what do you think of him getting Drummer Of The Year in !DRUM magazine?

NUTHA JASON

07-05-2005, 07:27 PM

we cover basket case and american idiot and i must say his drumming is loads of fun to play. i tend to pull his facial expressions which i find helps with the general greenday madness sound.

j

LDGuy

07-05-2005, 07:28 PM

I think the guy is cool from the point that is great at playing good time, in the pocket. Greenday's music, on the other hand, i can't stand. It's good to hear someone in the nu-punk genre with some good tasteful drumming there, but i think that's all i can really see in the music they play.

Elemental Nausea

07-05-2005, 07:59 PM

I think he is a bit over average punk drummer, i dont know what else he can play. travis barker is definitely the better drummer i think, with also much jazz education and generally also theoretical knowledge.what i cannot really understand either is that drummers like john dolmayan or brad wilk are on this drummers homepage; well i like both rage against... and soad but in dont think their drumming is really outstanding, they just just fit the band very well

Bozzio-v-portnoy

07-05-2005, 10:00 PM

dolmayan is good. Check out the new album, a song called "Revenga" its pretty good.

Tre gives a great live performance. I think he is a good drummer! and I'm with NJ - basket case is great fun!

LiquidSoul546

07-05-2005, 11:45 PM

yeah, i believe he is a good drummer for his genre. but if you put him in a situation like give him a gig with eric clapton, and i dunno how good he'd do. but i do give him props for gettin more people to drum, i just don't think he can do any more than what he does.
Nutha Jason- your point is everything i believe to. just i don't think he could play anything outside greenday.
peace

spacebeat3117

07-06-2005, 12:26 AM

Tre Cool is amazing period. If you have doubts listen to "Jesus of Suburbia" off of American Idiot.

C_H

07-06-2005, 03:51 PM

he has a tight groove in one or two songs.... part from that you might aswell talk about travis barker (heaven frobid)

largo61

08-08-2005, 04:42 AM

rendezvous_drummer

08-08-2005, 11:01 AM

He is a good drummer, not great, not grand, but good. Alot of his stuff is simple, but it fits, he could be more creative though.

thrashed

08-08-2005, 08:55 PM

Alright, this is a drummers thread, and i don't want to argue but discuss this guys talent factor. I mean, how is he such a great drummer? I am wondering this because i can see what he plays is all so simple, and if he is sponsered why not you, or any other drummer that can belt out 1 and 3 on bass drum, 2 and 4 snare, with eighth note highats. He's sponsered cause he is in a popular band. And he's a "great" because he's in a popular band. if someone could prove me wrong i'd like to hear.
Thanks
P.S, don't get mad at me if you like him, i totaly respect if you like the band, and love what he does.
Peace

I agree with this post ^

because even thought he is resonably good he is overated because of the band he plays in like lars urich is but i still love green days music just like i love the white stripes music even though meg white, well isn't the most talented drummer lets say.. lol ;)

but what i do think is that we should not agrue on about who is the best drummer or the worst drummer because at the end of the day there the ones with the paychecks and all the cash not us (well most of us on this forum lol!) so i therefore appriciate every drums playing.

with thanks,

Thrashed :)

Jaymasta

08-09-2005, 12:36 AM

Tre Cool is an awsome drummer. I use to be a huge fan of Green Day but no such much any more because american idiot is just not that punk more like pop/punk which I'm not a fan of but. Tre had some good drumming on that album also on Dookie and Nimrod. Tre plays easy stuff but can be a challenge at times it uses alot of energy to hit the toms really fast and stuff.
Alot of you think Tre Can't play stuff outside of Green Day but he can It's possible to find some videos of him playing alone but also very hard just because he plays punk (not hard stuff to play) deosn't mean he can't play drums at all hes been playing since he was a little kid I'm sure he can almost every catagory of music he likes to play metal music like Iron maiden, Metallica etc.... He loves drums and he owns over a dozen of them he sometimes just leaves his drums lying around at a friends house. Hes on tour now with his band Green Day and he does Drum Solo's almost every show. He has a really nice kit I've noticed he got more cymbals for the American Idiot album. Anyways Tre is an awsome drummer

JW89

08-09-2005, 12:53 AM

Too many people are listening to stuff on American Idiot and considering it to be good/bad, you people need to go back and listen to albums like Kerplunk, Insomniac, Dookie, and even Nimrod. I taught myself how to play listening to these albums and there are fills and grooves that i still cant play. But there is drumming that is 10 times better on these albums, then on American Idiot, i suggest u guys start listening to them. Tre has amazing endurance and energy when he plays, and most people probably havent heard him playing outside of the recording studio, i bet hes really good.

Mario Vincent

08-09-2005, 10:43 AM

Last two posts put it nicely...

another 2 cents:

I respect and like green day but I’m not a superfan or anything so i would consider myself unbiased. I can’t argue that Tre's stuff isn't simple but its tasteful and I think he should be given some credit for speed and stamina. His very solid and plays fairly effortlessly on Greendays generally upbeat tracks (I’m talking about live footage, and pre-american idiot in general). Great sound too.

Not trying to start a fight and really don’t care about either frankly but I'd much rather watch Tre then Travis Barker, just to throw that out there.

laurence_drummer

08-09-2005, 01:15 PM

HardRockDrummer

08-09-2005, 04:54 PM

i think he's an awesome drummer with a cool attitude! he's definately a big inspiration to me and my drumming...i dont think Greenday could wish for a better drummer! so i love him, definatey one of my faves!

laurence.

greenday could definitely get a better drummer if they wanted. they just dont want a new drummer.
what exactly do you mean by "a cool attitude"? i don't quite get it.
tre's drumming is simply great fun to listen to and to play to. that's why i like him, but he's not that great. i saw them playing live on tv (rock-am-ring concert on mtv2) and in some of the songs the speed was changing everywhere! not a very good timekeeper i guess.

yer, i do prefer tre to travis as well. at least tre doesn't sound like a drum-machine.

devilfish

08-09-2005, 05:13 PM

Well, I came into this post late, but I'll agree with both sides. I don't think that Tre is doing anything special, and in my opinion, his grooves, from album to album sound similar. However, he lays down a nasty groove, keeps the beat, drives GD and fits with the other members' idiosyncrasies. GD wouldn't be GD if you took Tre away and say, put Matt Chamberlain in the spot. Matt is a great drummer, he just wouldn't fit with the whole GD theme. So, Tre is sponsored because he is a good drummer and he's in a good band. Companies want to be promoted, so if it's a question of how he became sponsored, well, GD sells tons of albums and tours, so his sponsors get publicity. If they sponsor you or me, they don't get as much out of the deal. Again, only my opinion.

Cheers!

Stevis

08-09-2005, 10:41 PM

Now I am not the biggest fan of Greenday here, but when I do listen to some of there songs, it's simple but very catchy. Now that whole so-cal punk rock scene they play in that's what they kinda go for is the simplicity of things. And for tre-cool to work and work to make the drums more complicated or technical, I see no point, the way he plays now is what got him there in the first place, and the band has gotton so succesful, won a grammy, and made millions, I think its perfect for him to keep playing what he plays. There music attracts so many different people and influences so many kids to pick up instruments and start playing.

To me tre - cool is kinda a gateway drummer. Him and greenday get kids an poeple into music in a way where the instruments don't seem so confusing and then once people enter the greenday gateway they also enter a whole new world of music for people to explore. Then it is up to them whether or not they want to take it to the next step and follow some of the greats.

To me I agree with what Nutha said about the goods, and the greats, And really agree with what Bernhard said, "10000 drummers were getting better because they listened to Steve Gadd - that's great.

...but 2 Million people started drumming because of Ringo - that's great too."

Tre is kinda like the ringo of today.

These are my opinions on tre' cool.

Plus I like the singers voice, it's very catchy.

Dannar

08-10-2005, 03:03 AM

Tre is a perfect example of a less is more style drummer. He doesn't overplay, because if he did, it would make Green Day sound too cluttered. The American Idot album (although I don't agree with Green Day's politcal views) is a great album, much more mature than their previous stuff. Tre playing on it is very solid, and he plays some killer fills.

Jaymasta

08-10-2005, 06:10 AM

Tre Isn't a millionare hes just a normal guy with some money not looking to impress anyone with his drumming Tre got sponcered way before American Idiot was released hes a very talented drummer that has a great style to his drum playing I just have a complaint on Green Day. The thing is when I liked Green Day they had real punk fans people with mohawks and coloured hair and ya....... Reason I'm not into Green Day so much anymore is because there new stuff is at the limit where they have an image like The Used, My Chemical Romance etc..
And most of there fans our now 10 year old screaming girls "OHHHH BILLIE JOE IS SOOO HOT" and "TRE COOL IS SO CUTE AND HES THE BEST DRUMMER IN THE WORLD" and that's why there so popular today It's because there now officially one of the Boy Bands of
Today. You can ask any young girl if they know who Green Day is they would know but back then when Green Day were more punk then pop you could ask a little girl who Green Day was they wouldn't know It's funny how Green Day fans know there new stuff but not there old stuff and it ticks me off so I think Green Day is 100% pure pop/punk. I'm not so much into there new stuff but Tre Cool is an awsome drummer and deserves what he got but if he doesn't lose that make up crap and that goes for billie to then there going to be the next Good Charlotte so drumming will run in Tre's family I think Tre is going to teach his youngest son to play drums so It's going to run in the family and I bet his son is going to be a successful drummer to either that or hes not going to drum at all! and you all got to admit Tre has a nice kit for the american idiot album who wouldn't want a ludwig like that....

Stevis

08-11-2005, 06:40 AM

I don't agree that Tre Cool is the Ringo of today.

Ringo is known by most people of most music genre's. Tre Cool is known by a few drummers and fans of pop-punk.

I'm not saying he is completely 100% percent ringo starr. Just the fact that he got a lot of people to start playing drums like ringo starr did at his time.

finnhiggins

08-11-2005, 07:25 AM

I'm not saying he is completely 100% percent ringo starr. Just the fact that he got a lot of people to start playing drums like ringo starr did at his time.

I'll second that. The vast majority of drummers I've met who started around a decade ago were kicked off by one of the following:

* Nirvana
* Green Day
* The Smashing Pumpkins

Alk3fan

08-11-2005, 07:54 AM

I think Tre' Cool does good for Greeday. I like his sense of rythm and the feel he puts on his drumming. No, its not too complicated, but it fits doesn't it? It makes the song that much better when the drumming fits rather than showing off skill and not fitting. And when people say that he is just caught in the right band at the right time.. the band did have to work a good bit to get to there point now. He must have some skill to make it this far right?
Even though their stuff is simple.. people like it, and so they make what the people like, giving them the glory.

: )

Wegadrummer

08-21-2005, 12:38 AM

i think tre is a great drummer who fits perfect to green day.. he is not the best, but not the badest either.. he got a nice sence of "grooving" i think.. just listen to Holiday, i must admit i love the drumming on that song.. yeah, and dont bash ringo.

Ferdinand

08-22-2005, 02:03 AM

I think Tre is awesome drummer. Not the greatest.
If you think Green Day songs are simple or easy try playing them making faces and jumping around.
Green Day also has a whole bunch cover songs...ex Rolling Stones, Marylin Manson, Elvis Presley, The Cure, The Who, Operation Ivy, Billy Idol, Sex Pistols, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Def Leppard, The Ramones, Queen, Led Zeppelin, The Ramones etc...
So Tre can play more then just "punk" or w/e you guys call it. Go to http://www.greendayauthority.com/TheBand/songlist.shtml for the whole list.
Tre also played with The Lookouts, Sreeching Weasels, and Samiam.
You can probably download some of these songs.
I think you guys should listen to more than just what he played in Green Day before you judge how good a drummer he is.
I also heard a drum solo he played. I probably still have it on my computer somewhere.

Jaymasta

08-23-2005, 12:49 AM

haha one testicle! i didn't know that!
anyway... since when has he changed his endorsement from slingerland to ludwig? he was on an advert on a drum magazine
Maybe hes not endorced by ludwig probably just using a ludwig that's all..

spacebeat3117

08-23-2005, 02:03 AM

Whats not to like about tre cool-good band -good drummer -inspiration to many young drummers -wild antics on stage and he really seems like a fun guy to be around.

yakbutter

09-21-2005, 11:38 PM

OK, I'm jumping on this thread kinda late, but I don't really understand the criticisms of Tre Cool presented thus far. SImple? Yeah, and just about everything else you hear from rock bands on the radio! What do you want him to play? Some Vinnie Colaiuta lick from Joe's Garage? Doesn't work in Green Day, people.

I think Green Day would actually be a challenging band to play for, considering the tempos and intensity of the music. There are tons of fast fills and you have to play them hard, too. Try doing that for a two-hour set!

I have seen footage of certain songs where he rushes the beat, but I'd probably be doing that too if I were playing in front of a packed stadium.

Also, John Dolmayan is a pretty sick drummer. The ultra-quick sixteenth notes on the first song off Toxicity is enough to tell you that.

Zildjian232

09-22-2005, 04:30 AM

tre is just solid. He is nothing special, but i have a certain amount of respect for musicians out there who made it and are popualar. I personally do not like greenday. they are just like every other pop punk band on mtv.

Zildjian232

09-22-2005, 04:38 AM

I think Green Day would actually be a challenging band to play for, considering the tempos and intensity of the music. There are tons of fast fills and you have to play them hard, too. Try doing that for a two-hour set!

i hope your being sarcastic and trying to bring humor into the thread. i could have my sister take drumlessons for 2 months and go on tour with them. Zeppelin is a good example of intensity. john bonham is an amazing drummer and zeppelins legend will live on. Danny carey from tool. i get fustrated trying ot play some of those songs. green day... no way. anybody can play fast. its how you play and sometimes its what you dont do that makes you brilliant

southpawNotadrummer

09-22-2005, 05:09 AM

Jaymasta

09-22-2005, 05:41 AM

i hope your being sarcastic and trying to bring humor into the thread. i could have my sister take drumlessons for 2 months and go on tour with them. Zeppelin is a good example of intensity. john bonham is an amazing drummer and zeppelins legend will live on. Danny carey from tool. i get fustrated trying ot play some of those songs. green day... no way. anybody can play fast. its how you play and sometimes its what you dont do that makes you brilliant
ok John and Danny are different then what Tre plays and Green Day is not really speed. I don't listen to a band for the drumming (I only listen to the drums on some songs so I can play along or learn new stuff) I listen to a band for the music. It really deosn't matter if your drumming isn't difficult in a Pop/Punk song what matters is that Tre's playing fits the music. Tre Is getting better I listened to Kerplunk (which I liked the most) all the way to American Idiot and I have to say Tre has gotten so much better he's an amazing drummer. Your sister taking drum lessons for 2 months would be no where close to what Tre plays so yeah.....

southpawNotadrummer

09-22-2005, 05:48 AM

ok John and Danny are different then what Tre plays and Green Day is not really speed. I don't listen to a band for the drumming (I only listen to the drums on some songs so I can play along or learn new stuff) I listen to a band for the music. It really deosn't matter if your drumming isn't difficult in a Pop/Punk song what matters is that Tre's playing fits the music. Tre Is getting better I listened to Kerplunk (which I liked the most) all the way to American Idiot and I have to say Tre has gotten so much better he's an amazing drummer. Your sister taking drum lessons for 2 months would be no where close to what Tre plays so yeah.....

Also, there was a noticeable difference between him and John/Al, the previous drummer featured on tracks 13-16 of Kerplunk. That was a total change in drummers, and a subsequent change, however minor, in sound and outcome.

Jaymasta

09-22-2005, 06:04 AM

Also, there was a noticeable difference between him and John/Al, the previous drummer featured on tracks 13-16 of Kerplunk. That was a total change in drummers, and a subsequent change, however minor, in sound and outcome.
Yeah Tre taught John how to play for the band "Sweet Children" now known as Green Day with Tre Cool. I just don't understand why people would bash his playing he's not looking to be the best drummer or whatever. He just plays for the music and what's not to respect about that? people think he sucks but he's awesome

Zildjian232

09-22-2005, 09:23 AM

ok John and Danny are different then what Tre plays and Green Day is not really speed

i wasnt talking about speed. speed doesnt mean anything. alot of people judge drummers on how fast a drummer is. like for example joey jordison. he is very overated. im just replying to some people who say hes really talented, which he is in certain aspects, but not anything to brag about

Zildjian232

09-22-2005, 09:25 AM

i usually dont judge bands by drummers but this is a drummer forum so i thought i bring it out. i listen to bands as a whole more than anything

Tony Rockyhorror

09-23-2005, 07:46 PM

ewanlaing

09-26-2005, 05:51 PM

i back you up about 99%, only disagreeing in that i think kieth moon improvised a lot more in concert. green day sound just like on cd live, from what i see. anyhow, although much of tre cools drumming seems simple, it is fast and fun to play. and his sticks are pretty darn heavy, gave me about a million blisters when i tryed to play basket case with them. back to me old 5Bs. the music green day listened to as kids were (i suspect, correct me if i'm wrong) ramones, sex pistols and the like. and tre drums like all the ramones drummers did, especially marky. i think it's just the style he has a passion for, so it's one of these cases where we may never know how good he is.

Jaymasta

09-28-2005, 02:49 AM

southpawNotadrummer

09-28-2005, 07:39 AM

I'm gonna be honest and some people might wanna jump down my throat for this one but I think Tre Cool is very reminisent of Keith Moon. Think about it, the intensity, the number of fills, the anticts. I also think that is what's missing from rock now a days. I think Tre deserves the respect he gets, cause like them or not Green Day is the band of this generation. When kids who grew up between the years of 1993 and now look back Green Day will be what we where represented by. As far as I'm concerned that's fine.

Actually, I believe there is a connection between the two...also, The Who are one of the bands Green Day are very into, they have a cover of My Generation on their second album (ironically, drummed by John Kiffmeyer and not Tré...). So it shouldn't be any surprise, nor should anyone take it as a bad thing, because it's one of their very aims (conscious or subconscious...)

ewanlaing

09-28-2005, 06:44 PM

Except they were the first ones to do it...
have to stop you there. ramones did it first. green day did it better IMO

southpawNotadrummer

09-29-2005, 08:42 AM

have to stop you there. ramones did it first. green day did it better IMO

I'm sorry. I meant the second time around. Before them, yes there were the Ramones, but that was a while before, and up until Green Day came around, everyone in the mainstream had forgotten about punk/pop-punk. The current pop-punk bands aren't out there as direct result of the Ramones, but of Green Day. Oh yes, and of course if you think Green Day was better, it'd probably because the sound had had the time to develop. Green Day take a lot of influence from The Ramones. (As well as, as it has been said, the Who, the Kinks, the Clash, David Bowie, etc...)

ewanlaing

09-29-2005, 07:04 PM

ah, i see what you mean. yes i agree. i think tre cool is a solid rock drummer overall. some people dismiss his stuff as easy, but it goes well with their songs. and to be honest, what some poeple may find easy, some younger drummers may find hard. up untill last year i found green day pretty challenging to play.

LiquidSoul546

10-01-2005, 09:01 AM

Okay i started this thread, and have read through a LOT of opinions. This is my point of view. Sure solid drummer.... but honestly how can you not when you have been playing that long, with that simple of music. I hate the fact he is talked about "oo fast fills"... sorry but his fills don't impress me, especially with the simplicity of them. The mere fact of him having dynamics is balogna to me. You know all he does is hit hard most the time, while the stage crew just turns his volume down haha... Sure catchy music, but to me it is crape... I have absolutly no respect for that band.
peace
ps yes i do know i said crape, and not crap, cuase i was being respectfull, crape is basically a black veil, worn over someones face, which i would do if i was tre' cool, cause i would be embarrassed.
Oh yeah, before i forget...Since when was it not for the love of music anymore, and just for money? I just realized that, sure he may not care, that's because he is a sell-out. So screw that excuse.

jivinjunya

10-01-2005, 09:29 AM

well if he would focus on drumming technique instead of fashion sense i might could stomach it, but then again if he was better...then all the rest of his bandmates would be really, really bad!!! i guess he's just like ringo, in the back keeping a beat! but as i have always said,"the BEST musicians are selling car insurance"!!!

ewanlaing

10-01-2005, 01:19 PM

yeah, people shouldn't be impressed by the speed of his fills anymore, and they are all basically just 4 snare, 4 tomtom, 4 floor tom, crash. pretty dull. and he has been playing for ages, but i still wouldn't call him bad. there are plenty of worse punk drummers out there. and plenty of better ones (steve jocz, travis barker.)

Zildjian232

10-02-2005, 10:12 PM

mediocrefunkybeat

10-02-2005, 10:49 PM

Can we please stop bashing? He's a pro drummer and therefore (with some exceptions, but certainly not him) he must be up to something. Whether or not you like the music we don't need mindless 'he sucks' posts up.

NaturalRaz

10-02-2005, 11:05 PM

Tre is a perfect example of a less is more style drummer. He doesn't overplay, because if he did, it would make Green Day sound too cluttered.

I agree with that statement. Tre is not on my favorites list. Infact sometimes I think he does too much for my taste. I really like when he slows down. He has a natural ability to place fills in spots that aren't needed but sound so good when he does. Hey...he is making a bunch of cash playing the drums. Thats where most of us would like to be. That right there says that he is good and is in demand for what the music companies want to hear these days. Good for him!

ewanlaing

10-05-2005, 10:11 AM

how can you find any of that stuff challenging? unless youve just been playing for a month
i think thats a tad pompous (spelling). not everyone picks the drums up so quickly. statements like that may just put people off.

Slayer_metal_head

10-20-2005, 12:16 AM

finnhiggins

10-20-2005, 12:47 AM

(i gave up pop and green day when i heard slayer)

Why? Do they make you hand over all your CDs when you join the Metal Club or something? I have CDs in my collection by Death, Pantera, Strapping Young Lad, Meshuggah, Dillinger Escape Plan and all sorts of others. I also have hip-hop, punk, funk, jazz, blues, rock, soul, pop, dance music, folk music...

You don't just have to like one kind of thing, you know. It's possible to enjoy both for different things.

mediocrefunkybeat

10-20-2005, 01:01 AM

Why? Do they make you hand over all your CDs when you join the Metal Club or something? I have CDs in my collection by Death, Pantera, Strapping Young Lad, Meshuggah, Dillinger Escape Plan and all sorts of others. I also have hip-hop, punk, funk, jazz, blues, rock, soul, pop, dance music, folk music...

You don't just have to like one kind of thing, you know. It's possible to enjoy both for different things.

I listen to Slayer too... and even Cryptopsy... but it is definately worth expanding your horizons, I also, for instance listen to Mozart. Broaden your horizons man!

incubotic

10-20-2005, 07:02 PM

i listen to mozart too. it's good to listen to classical music IMO, lets you hear very unique rhythms, melodies, time sigs etc...plus mozart was a genius...but anyway, i think Tre Cool is a solid drummer...i use to like greenday like 10 years ago, but not now..i think they sound the same they did 10 years ago..no real progression..taht's the only thing that pisses me off about them, they could be super good by now, but they don't evolve or expand really...but oh well, tre is a good drummer, that's all i can say about him really.

geek_boy_in

10-20-2005, 08:54 PM

is his name really Tré cool he may be a good drummer but i can play every song on the american idiot album (i gave up pop and green day when i heard slayer) but some of the fills are pretty cool and i admire the drumming on hte song novacaine when the heavier part of the song comes on i still cant figure out what hes playing but whateva i dont mind Tré except his name i dont evan have to tell you why "Tré Cool" is getting bashed

If you want speed listen to slayer i used to green day is fast before i heard slayer and i discobered BLAST BEATS theyre insane gotta try em

Thanks and NO THANKS.

I think its a misplaced conception prevalent amongst youngsters to judge a drummer by whether you can pick up his licks/groove or not.
Ever wondered why best of breed drummers keep on repeating the same sentence AGAIN AND AGAIN that they are "trying to find deeper pockets" ??
You, myself, Bernhard, and the other members of this forum will play the same slam home 4/4 beat (1 and 3 on bass and 2 and 4 on snare) in the same tempo in the same drum .. but will sound different ........

why ??? go figure lad ;) ....

ewanlaing

10-22-2005, 08:36 PM

i think his name is something something the third, so i can see why he changed it. tre cool has been playing drums for so long that he can't be bad, he just chooses not to show off and ruin a song by over drumming. i like to assume that every drummer you hear on cd can play whatever you hear very easily, and can play much better.

Jaymasta

10-22-2005, 09:05 PM

mediocrefunkybeat

10-23-2005, 02:56 AM

Frank Edwin Wright lll so that's why he changed it....

I'd keep the initial name for the irony stakes. And yes, 1 and 3 on bass, 2 and 4 on snare is THE way to go. Honestly, Tré (very) Cool... how could it be your real name? Unless you had some pretty progressive parents.

FloEy

10-23-2005, 06:11 AM

yeah i also find it hard to believe that someone who has been playing for so long is not good. He must be somewhat better than what he puts out on the cds but hell we will never know unless a bootlegger at one of their shows catches him doing a drum solo. Someone earlier said that Greenday still is the same but I can tell you one thing that is different about the band, they add guitar solos in ther songs lol.

ewanlaing

10-24-2005, 10:03 PM

yeah, i think that guitarist dude who plays with them all the time now should become a member. one of the best things about tre cool, he know how to have fun.

kjsm

10-25-2005, 04:54 PM

yeah... a good example is the drummer for Him too.. he is not so good, but since the band are popular,he is sponsored..

again what do you mean 'he is not so good'? what are you better?
fact is he plays what suits the music, he plays in time, he is hired and kept on by a professional successful international band so he must be doing something right, also to those that find his playing too 'simplistic' well bear in mind - Valo writes all aspects of the songs and lyrics and may even be writing the drum parts as from what i understand he plays drums himself and is a competent rock drummer (listen to the Daniel Lioneye album 'The King of Rock n' Roll'). Valo may want nothing more than backbeats and the occasional fill. Fact is i really enjoy his drumming - though i would only throw in some stewart copeland/john bonham/travis barker 'clever' fills - stuff that fits 'backbeat' groove music but with just a little more flair. However i love HiM so a bias is there.
but as nutha_jason pointed out

Does Gas Lipstick (HiM drummer) stay in time? do his drum parts suit the songs (i find it as a say a bit siplistic but then the songs are the perfection of the art of simple but pwerful sounding songs)? is he competent/consisent live (i can personally confirm that)?

wontgetfooledagain

10-30-2005, 09:28 PM

Is anybody else getting tired of pop/punk, punk, unkpae, or whatever you might want to call it? It seems like that's all you hear on the radio these days, and it's all the same.

NUTHA JASON

10-31-2005, 09:40 AM

well emotional punk is in.

look, i've read this whole thread and i must say that some folks here do need to consider a wise old saying:

better to be quiet and let the world think you are a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.

Tre cool is a very big part of greenday's sound and a clever drummer at that. there is a type of narrow minded generic snobbery on these types of threads. unless a drummer plays highly progressive jazz or rock (and in so doing prooves he has enormously varied chops) he cannot really be a great drummer. I don't care what anyone says, i know that, for example Phill Rudd is a great drummer. and he plays far more simpler stuff than tre. the fact is you need to look elsewhere on the scorecard and not just under 'can play very fast double bass' or 'can play very odd timesignatures' etc.

tre has some clever ideas.
take american idiot which my band plays. i had to study that song.
look at the drop out to bass drum pulse only parts at the end of each singing line in the verse ... 'don't wanna be an american idiot (dub! dub! dub! dub!). nice open space and contrasts well with the guitar and punk crash explosion that comes between. nodes and internodes. most drummers would have kept this successful formula throughout the verses in hte song.
but tre colours it a bit with an exciting and simple addition in the last two nodes of the second verse. he drops in a great backbeat snare and also adds in a ride on the floor tom. the contrast is still there but now there is an element of excitement and of course the song is more interesting. in terms of drumming this little alteration for me is the hook in the piece. this is great drumming. you only have to look for it.

j

Jaymasta

10-31-2005, 03:14 PM

He really is a GREAT drummer he's been playing since he was 9 or 10 I think and he's 32. He was in his first band when he was 12 called The Lookouts He went to clown college and just look at him when he plays that's why some people wonder why he's crazy.

rendezvous_drummer

11-01-2005, 09:10 AM

Well he isn't a bad drummer, but sure isn't a great drummer. I don't know how he can be named best drummer of the year.. maybe it was because Green Day was so popular, I don't know.

Fish

11-06-2005, 03:28 AM

well emotional punk is in.

look, i've read this whole thread and i must say that some folks here do need to consider a wise old saying:

better to be quiet and let the world think you are a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.

Tre cool is a very big part of greenday's sound and a clever drummer at that. there is a type of narrow minded generic snobbery on these types of threads. unless a drummer plays highly progressive jazz or rock (and in so doing prooves he has enormously varied chops) he cannot really be a great drummer. I don't care what anyone says, i know that, for example Phill Rudd is a great drummer. and he plays far more simpler stuff than tre. the fact is you need to look elsewhere on the scorecard and not just under 'can play very fast double bass' or 'can play very odd timesignatures' etc.

j

I definately agree. I think when a drummer starts to try to add too much "junk", he just messes the song up. Don't overdrum just to try to impress people you don't know. The trick is to fit the drumming to the style of the song / band. I also rate Charlie Watts along with Phil Rudd as classic drummers that keep it simple, they have perfect rythym and timing and are creative without becomming egocentric. "Satisfaction" is an easy one to use as an example: Basic beat throughout, but anything else would have made the song ordinary.
Tre' fits Greenday perfectly. He's not a Jazz drummer and he doesn't try to be, although he probably could be if he wanted to. I don't know the guy, don't know what he practices by himself. I doubt anyone else in this forum, who are bashing him, would know either!! Sounds like sour grapes to me....

Sabian_Dragon

11-07-2005, 02:55 PM

Very true. I shall relate an example:

I had the opportunity of attending a "Battle Of The Bands". The location and time is not important. What is important is the fact that a band of kids had been friends since Junior High and most of them had played instruments during that time as well. The only difference was their drummer had only played drums for several weeks before the big performance.

His repertoire only consisted of hitting the snare and floor tom on every 2 and 4 count of the measure. The bass drum occupied the 1 and 3 counts and every now and then he would include a cymbal crash. His drum set alone only consisted of a snare, bass drum, floor tom, high hat, and crash cymbal (not even a ride cymbal).

The ending result was phenomenal; while some of the other drummers backstage gave a snicker for the "noob" and his "boom...bop...boom...bop" style of playing, the band sounded remarkably well-practiced as though each of them had played together for years. Personally, I was impressed because it proved that it doesn't take years of rudimental practice and procedure to do your job as a drummer. All you need to do is be a "creative metronome" that doesn't lose the time. Simplicity, I've learned, is sometimes what the audience wants more than complexity.

Also, if there was one thing that was nice, it was the fact that this kid had the luxury of moving his drum set onto the stage in one trip within ten seconds. Sometimes, complexity and simplicity doesn't just apply to the music alone...

Jaymasta

11-11-2005, 12:31 AM

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Slayer_metal_head

11-11-2005, 01:51 AM

well let me clear something up i can play all the songs but i had to practise them alot i agree he is a better drummer then me, but he is nothing special, and the only thing i dont like about him is name tré cool. if i changed my name to that i would smack myself 8 times then shove my head in a meat grinder. i do still listen to other types of music but i said i have up POP ROCK, i still listen to classic rock and some punk and a little jazz, but all that screaming kinda gets to you sometimes.

(sic)

11-12-2005, 01:45 PM

he doesn't deserve too much attention.
he should concentrate on improving his "skill" than making faces for the camera.

Bernhard

11-12-2005, 01:58 PM

he doesn't deserve too much attention.
he should concentrate on improving his "skill" than making faces for the camera.

No Sir

He has not "to improve his skills" - he's the perfect drummer for the perfect band for many, many years..... and making faces for the camera is exactly what's needed.

To all other bashers in their practice-rooms: yes improve your skills, so perhabs you get in the reach of a camera too...but only perhabs....

Bernhard

dunchykong

11-13-2005, 05:12 AM

i think hes got a really cool name. cool is his last name. tre cool. did he change his name?

Sticksman

11-13-2005, 06:14 AM

I consider myself a "good" drummer, in the loosest sense of the word, and I like to acquaint myself with all types of music. It's always good to have an open mind towards other genres, which include punk. While punk might not be my favorite style to play, it has its moments for me, and for the most part, it just feels good! It might not require the chops you hear in jazz fusion and progressive rock, but it still requires a certain amount of skill, eg. being able to play simple beats at high bpm, having good hi-hat foot skills, being able to NOT OVERPLAY, which for me, is a big problem in the drum world right now. But that's another story. There's a time and a place for heavy chops and technicality, but in certain genres, like punk, its not called for. Enter Tre Cool. I'm fairly sure he's a good drummer by any means, but whats important here is that he's playing what he likes in the music he likes. I'm sure he has chops and technique that would surprise most of us if we were to see them all. After all, he's been drumming for Green Day for almost 15 years... you have to have a certain high level of skill to show for after drumming professionally for that long.

Summary: Tre is good!

londoncallingbronxNYC

11-15-2005, 02:26 AM

I am fourteen years old and yes I do like a lot of the new punk stuff but I do know what is the right thing to listen to. I was raised on; The who, Zeppelin, ELP,YES, and my favorite band THE CLASH. And I can play evrey song off American Idiot (great CD) and I will admit he is no Buddy Rich (who is?) but he does have tallent. So what if Green Day are sell outs now, you cant take that away from him.

(I saw Green Day at Giants Stadium and I was not amused. It was all little kids with there soccar momes who only heard of Green Day because Wake me Up when Sept. Ends was over played. (espicly in the NYC were i live)

Jaymasta

11-15-2005, 03:34 AM

I think Green Day is changing back into there old school stuff which would be a hard thing to do but I heard in an interview that Billy Joe is planning on doing another Dookie alike album they said they just wanted to try american idiot out and see where it would go from there ofcourse it's a big change but until then we will just see how there next album goes.

ewanlaing

11-15-2005, 10:07 PM

southpawNotadrummer

11-16-2005, 01:54 PM

i think you have the right attitude towards tre cool, but maybe not the kids. they have to start with some song. we all start somewhere.
I agree. I'll be the first to admit I wasn't a big fan until I bought American Idiot. Though it wasn't my first album.

And I don't really think they're going to be "going back" anywhere. After American Idiot, they can only go forward, and I'm pretty sure they know that as well as anyone does. Like it or not, they're growing - musically, personally - and once you've started to grow, it's ridiculous to try to come back to something you've passed.

And Tré is one crazy guy. First of all, he said rock drumming needs to be brought back to Keith Moon, which is excellent (and apparent in his playing style). Secondly, if you've ever read a biographical article about the guy, he's done and said some pretty wacky things to his body and in his life, and at 32 (almost 33), I don't think he's going to stop that anytime soon. As a drummer, and as a rock star, I see him as being something you're not going to see twice.

Jaymasta

11-16-2005, 02:44 PM

I agree. I'll be the first to admit I wasn't a big fan until I bought American Idiot. Though it wasn't my first album.

And I don't really think they're going to be "going back" anywhere. After American Idiot, they can only go forward, and I'm pretty sure they know that as well as anyone does. Like it or not, they're growing - musically, personally - and once you've started to grow, it's ridiculous to try to come back to something you've passed.

And Tré is one crazy guy. First of all, he said rock drumming needs to be brought back to Keith Moon, which is excellent (and apparent in his playing style). Secondly, if you've ever read a biographical article about the guy, he's done and said some pretty wacky things to his body and in his life, and at 32 (almost 33), I don't think he's going to stop that anytime soon. As a drummer, and as a rock star, I see him as being something you're not going to see twice.
Well I know there not keeping there additional band members and there not wearing that make up anymore so there next album is just going to have 3 of them on it. See if they do another album like american Idiot well it would probably be boring and the same as the other one. American Idiot was something new they've got a lot of new fans but lost many old fans Billie Joe knows that Since he started in the underground Punk sceen he wants to go oldschool Green Day and if there next album is like Dookie I'm buying it.

Tre Cool is a crazy guy he did courses in clown college he's like a clown when he's on stage! I use to watch Green Day videos and say wow I wish I could play like Tre Cool Then I learn't about other drummers even though I'm not looking to play what Tre Cool does He made me want to play Drums

zildjian_dude101

11-16-2005, 03:29 PM

I like green day, but not american idiot. only good song is jesus of saburbia. Tre cool, in my opinion is a pretty good drummer, but its mainly speed that makes him sound good.

Wegadrummer

11-16-2005, 11:09 PM

I like his drumming, he has great taste for fills.. and the songs doesnt sound the same..
He has a pretty cool style, always smiling and making faces..

PiperDrums722

11-25-2005, 07:30 PM

haha every one bashes travis because hes so good he gets overated but you never hear Tre Cool only billy joe so no one bashes him lol!

Mike Firth

11-25-2005, 08:24 PM

Tre Cool is one of the main drummers I idolize. He is just so cool. Went to a Green Day show, and he is such a beast and still loves drumming, not just the money. He is always pumped for a show, always hyper, my type of guy!

Will-Myster

11-27-2005, 06:19 AM

Tre' is alright. He can play some good stuff, and some bad stuff. In my standards, hes cool.

Will

wooltonboy

11-29-2005, 07:18 AM

Ok, just got the copy of the new "Bible In A Bullet" DVD by Greenday.
Verdict: Tre' is an amazing drummer. I suggest all you naysayers get a copy and watch.
What a great "show" drummer. His chops and intricate fills come across so good in this DVD concert. He has a style unique to him. Try copying those chops with the same energy and flair!
One thing the man does, is put the drummer in the forefront of the action.
How many times have we complained that the guitarists and singers get all the attention.
The man is a great drummer, and more importantly great for the drumming community.
"Nuff said!
Phil

NUTHA JASON

11-29-2005, 09:39 AM

good post and i agree. i want to see that dvd. i model my live drumming after him quite extensively, him and kieth moon. give 'em a show. that's what i say.

j

burnthehero

11-29-2005, 11:40 AM

You have to take into consideration the fact that Green Day probably doesn't have as much control over the writing process as they used to. Therefore, it's not fair to judge him based on what you're hearing on their latest album. If you want to know whether or not the man can play, just listen to Dookie.

JT1

11-29-2005, 12:22 PM

I wouldn't say he was a bad drummer i would just say that Greenday are too popular and they are possibly the most repetitive band on the planet thats why i don't like them and he does play the same beats a lot of the time but like people are saying, he does what he is needed and sometimes there is complexity (since that is the only thing people tend to care about). A lot of their stuff sounds too much the same!

Jaymasta

11-29-2005, 02:39 PM

That's why I like Tre so much he has so much energy on stage and he's always making funny faces He always get's the attention and he's amazing live. At the end of the concert he will either Burn a kit, Throw it around or run it over that's just crazy I'd love to do that on stage if I had over a dozen kits and my own signature kit!

Kraffty

12-02-2005, 02:42 PM

I dunno why ya r all going on bout how simple it is n everything... coz man if i got sponsered and paid and stuff for doing simple rhythms hell i'd be over the moon.

lfdy

12-06-2005, 05:29 PM

but YES he is being endorsed just because he has got lucky to get in a popular band, there are loats of drummers with similar skill lvl and even better but they just ain't popular.

Are you kidding me?

He didn't get LUCKY to be in a popular band. Those guys have worked their asses off to get so popular. If you think popularity just gets thrown to you, you better think again. You should always respect people (like Green Day) who have worked hard to reach this level.

I'm not saying Tré is the world's best drummer, but his style fits their music so well. And that's all that matters.

BigDon2005

12-14-2005, 02:03 AM

we cover basket case and american idiot and i must say his drumming is loads of fun to play. i tend to pull his facial expressions which i find helps with the general greenday madness sound.

j

lol, i do too, i dont know why, but it does help to play his sticking

Thunderfm

12-20-2005, 01:03 AM

Many of you have said how can he be such a great drummer when all of his rhythms are so simple etc. But in my opinion, complex rhythms and portnoy style drumming does not make for a good drummer. A good drummer is one who can use simple rhythms but place them well in the song, drive the track along, and of course add a little comic relief to the band. Tre is one of the best drummers out there at the moment. Not just because of Green Day but because he's just a legend in his own right. He came from nothing and look where he is today. He Rocks!

NUTHA JASON

12-20-2005, 10:20 AM

i agree. put it like this:
i would rather watch tre in concert than portnoy and i would rather watch portnoy in clinic than tre.
j
ps: it is as unlikely that mr cool will bring out an instructional dvd as portnoy will stop making them, lol.

BURROWS™

12-21-2005, 12:02 AM

I think Tre is a pretty good drummer, not the best out there, but still good for Green Day's genre, I really like his work in Homecoming and St. Jimmy.

orangelightsaber

12-24-2005, 05:44 AM

I deff think that Tre cool is a great drummer. It doesnt matter if he can pull of the amazing fill or just keep time. Whatever he does has obviously made Green day popular. Alot of people say they could play his drum parts and i bet they could. But the question is could you have created those parts? For example, chances are if most people heard the song American idiot without the drum part i think most people would have played it differently and left out his bass drum on everybeat during the verse. These little, simple rythems during the song fit perfectly and make there songs catchy and easy to remeber.

ewanlaing

12-24-2005, 09:47 PM

worse still, they might have kept playing a beat in the bass drum parts. i think you're right in that most drummers wouldn't have the guts just to play the bass drum beats, they would want to show off.

gd_trecool1972

12-26-2005, 09:31 AM

Alright, this is a drummers thread, and i don't want to argue but discuss this guys talent factor. I mean, how is he such a great drummer? I am wondering this because i can see what he plays is all so simple, and if he is sponsered why not you, or any other drummer that can belt out 1 and 3 on bass drum, 2 and 4 snare, with eighth note highats. He's sponsered cause he is in a popular band. And he's a "great" because he's in a popular band. if someone could prove me wrong i'd like to hear.
Thanks
P.S, don't get mad at me if you like him, i totaly respect if you like the band, and love what he does.
Peace

Tré Cool page on DrummerWorld (http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Tre_Cool.html)

he's been drumming since he was 3 yrs.old! (but he started professional at 12)
no offense but don't you think if someone was drumming for so long that they would be able to play more diffuclt things?

lfdy

12-27-2005, 11:37 AM

I agree.

You shouldn't judge someone simply on what he plays in a band.

If he's been playing for that long, i'd guess he has some skills too :)

DanSN117

12-27-2005, 09:26 PM

One of the better Drummers out there.
Just watching him on stage is amazing, he makes himself seen on stage, in a way that not many other drummers can.
Some of the stuff he says off stage has me in stiches aswell.
Simple as.

brittc89

12-27-2005, 09:50 PM

he's been drumming since he was 3 yrs.old! (but he started professional at 12)
no offense but don't you think if someone was drumming for so long that they would be able to play more diffuclt things?
Sure, you would think that, but have you ever heard him play anything difficult. I listen to Vinnie Colaiuta and Im like man that was awesome and hes doing polyrhythms and paradiddles over triplets and crazy stuff all over the place (on his side project stuff) but Ive never heard Tre Cool do anything like that. Sure his playing fits the music, but lets hear him do something else. I never have, but maybe I just havent heard him play on anything but Green Day. And lets be realistic, does anyone really think he deserved all those Drummies from DRUM!? I didnt.

ewanlaing

12-28-2005, 01:18 AM

i watched bullet in the bible, and at one point tre and mike have a nice little jazz thing goin on. tre is very tasteful at this section, but it is by no means just 1 and 3 on bass with 2 and 4 on snare. tre can play, you better beleive it. it doesn't matter if you can play what he can play, cos he can do it without thinking.

brittc89

12-28-2005, 09:07 AM

ewanlaing

12-28-2005, 04:04 PM

i can read minds!
no, but he doesn't seem to concentrate on what he's doing at all on stage. i at least have to look at my drums sometimes. my point was that it seems as easy to him as the simplest beat, no mattter what speed he's moving at. sorry, i came off kinda pretentious in my last post.

lfdy

12-28-2005, 06:58 PM

Sure, you would think that, but have you ever heard him play anything difficult. I listen to Vinnie Colaiuta and Im like man that was awesome and hes doing polyrhythms and paradiddles over triplets and crazy stuff all over the place (on his side project stuff) but Ive never heard Tre Cool do anything like that. Sure his playing fits the music, but lets hear him do something else. I never have, but maybe I just havent heard him play on anything but Green Day. And lets be realistic, does anyone really think he deserved all those Drummies from DRUM!? I didnt.

Actually, yeah, i think he deserves it. He is an inspiration for lots of young (and older) drummers out there.

And you shouldn't underestimate finding drums that fit the music. His drums are part of what make Green Day a great band.

ewanlaing

12-28-2005, 07:31 PM

i think you hit the nail on the head there. tre cool was a huge inspiration for me as a younger drummer.

drummercraig

12-31-2005, 01:44 PM

his drumming skills are not great, but he is like the bon jovi drummer, the stuff he does is simple, and it sounds good, he makes simple stuff sound good, because of this you can not argue about how good he is, i have not seen him at his best. to prove my point i looked at american idiot (song not album) he uses some magnificent sounding fills which are so simple. but the size of him helps, he drums so quickly, despite having a poor technique. this is because of his giant muscles!!!

drummkidz

01-05-2006, 08:41 PM

lfdy

01-05-2006, 08:44 PM

i think hes definetly the best punk drummr in the history of punk/grundge. and the way he plays the drums may look simple but the way he plays them and the simple notes he uses makes them sound awezhome

Wow there...i wouldn't say that he's the best punk drummer ever :)

In terms of making interesting beats, Travis Barker tops him, and i know other punkrockdrummers that also top him.

But in terms of finding the best drum parts to go with the rest of the music, yeah, he's pretty good in that. But then again, he mostly plays a simple hihat/snare/bass beat, and that's bound to go along with everything :)

ewanlaing

01-07-2006, 05:08 PM

i think if i were the drummer for green day, i might do less fills. does anyone else think the same? i'm interested to see what different people would do with the music.

Stu_Strib

01-08-2006, 12:02 PM

i think if i were the drummer for green day, i might do less fills. does anyone else think the same? i'm interested to see what different people would do with the music.

I'd do less of the same fills.

lfdy

01-08-2006, 03:21 PM

i think if i were the drummer for green day, i might do less fills. does anyone else think the same? i'm interested to see what different people would do with the music.

I wouldn't change a thing :)

gd_trecool1972

02-01-2006, 07:32 AM

Tre has a lot of Fan Worship, so he gets way too much credit. His playing is solid and fits the music, but he won't be blowing away the Modern Drummer Festivals anytime soon.

He obviously had to work to get fan worship..it's not like he got it over night, hes been playin in green day for many years and people obviously like him because he's music fits in the genre, and still sound amazing, i mean if you compare other bands to green day, you'll see that there not trying to overshadowed each other like some other punk/rock bands do (no names here), i think Tré deserves the credit he gets cause he did work for it!

Stu_Strib

02-01-2006, 02:39 PM

He obviously had to work to get fan worship..it's not like he got it over night, hes been playin in green day for many years and people obviously like him because he's music fits in the genre, and still sound amazing, i mean if you compare other bands to green day, you'll see that there not trying to overshadowed each other like some other punk/rock bands do (no names here), i think Tré deserves the credit he gets cause he did work for it!

I agree with you 100%. I would mention though that most of his fan base was not built on his playing ability. That isn't how pop-music works. The best musicians are never the most popular.

Even though I have seen ZERO progression in his playing from Dookie to American Idiot, I still like Green Day and love his drum sound and parts. I think he plays the same fill too much, but his playing other than that is killer sounding!

Rockter

02-01-2006, 03:50 PM

If he is in time, I can listen to him, if not I can't. He's in time from what I can hear. Comparisons are really not relevant. he's in that band, and they seem to like him, and he keeps time. That he doesn't play like Gadd or Bonham is not relevant, and they don't play like him, either.

We have these discussions frequently, it seems.

Does it have to be difficult to be played well? No. Is it easy to play a technically simple piece well????? It isn't.

Beercan

02-02-2006, 09:06 PM

If you think Tre Cool sucks, I hate to break it to you, but you are too caught up in being a "drummer" and not a musician. For example, Dave Weckl is a drummer. Not a musician. The "music" he plays, in my opinion, just barely qualifies as music. It's a way to show people how fast he can play. Now I'm not being too harsh on Dave, because he is a, if not THE, technical master of the drums. He is the person to look to for technique.

Tre Cool is a musician. He plays music. He's not trying to show people how fast he plays, he's merely playing drums for Greenday, and he does it very very well. You see, if Tre tried to play like Dave on a Greenday track, uhhh.... that just wouldn't work. So what Tre does is make sure his drums sound GREAT (which they do, listen to Longview for an example) and play fills that sound great and complement the music perfectly. He knows his place, and he fills his role arguably better than anyone else could. I'm not a fan of recent Greenday, but Dookie is one of the albums that got me started on drums way back in the day.

Again I will reiterate, If you play things because they are hard to play, you are only a drummer (nothing wrong with that I guess, but it's not what I want to be). If you play things because they sound good and fit with the music, then you're a drummer AND a musician. That's what Tre is, and that's what I want to be (although in a completely different style).

Beercan

02-02-2006, 09:18 PM

I agree.

You shouldn't judge someone simply on what he plays in a band.

If he's been playing for that long, i'd guess he has some skills too :)

Actually, I think that's exactly what you should judge people on. It's not about what you can play, it's about what you choose to play. Seriously. Think about that long and hard.

luke-e-p

02-03-2006, 10:58 PM

Hmm lets think about this, basically this comes down to 'what makes a good drummer'.

I have played for 6 years and am 15 years old and can comfortable play pretty much everything on Greendays latest album. The thing is, for all you know tre cool walks off the stage and plays some latin grooves ect that would blow you away, he plays simple things on the stage because they fit - less is more?

Lets take U2's drummer Larry Mullen for example. I think he is a truly great drummer, yet he plays mindblowingly simple beats for most of his songs. Off stage i know that he could play some really amazing stuff, but he keeps it simple and it fits.

Basically what i think is that a drummer who does his job, keeps the time and plays the right stuff at the right time but in a minimalistic sense is sooooo much better for a band and more useful for anyone than a drummer who spends the whole time trying to show just how fast his, or her (god forbid) double pedal can go...

Saying that i personally do not look to tre cool for inspiration, because his name is too pretentious

mellow

02-04-2006, 01:55 AM

When I think of a good drummer the first thing that comes to mind is of course their skills but what if it goes deeper than that? To me a drummer isn’t just a person, who plays drums, they are certain form of a person and drums shape them to who they are as a person. I mean lets face it, we drummers have an attitude and a style but the drummer who tops all of us in that point is none other than Tre Cool from Green Day. The man with the passion, energy and the ever inflated ego. Listening to Tre Cool playing his drum part to songs like “American Idiot” “Welcome to Paradise” and probably his most famous drum part “Jesus of suburbia” gives you a sense of what drummers are there for, to give a rock steady beat with crazy fast fills and plenty of crashing away at cymbals. But listening to Tre cool is just not enough to get the whole picture of him, you have to see the man playing his heart out for 2 hours straight and looking like he’s having the best time of his life! A lot of people know Tre cool for his absurdly funny faces when he plays live and the way he collapses over his drum set and rolls on stage at the end of concerts and also his habit for tearing up his drum kit and lighting it on fire are just some of his more memorable crazy stunts. Another thing I like about Tre is that he has stayed with the same band all his life and gives his complete attention to it. That can’t be easy for a pro drummer to do but I guess he feels the same way I do that without him Green Day would not be the same Green Day because really his personality and his style of drumming fits perfectly with the band because they couldn’t make the same great songs or live shows without him. Its like saying “oh yeah Ringo star isn’t that good the beatles could have had a way better drummer but without Ringo who knows if the Beatles would have been as popular because without that extra chemistry that Ringo added with his personality and his simple but steady rock beats the music and the band as a whole would be a lot different. So next time you hear green day on the radio or watch him on TV be sure to pay attention to the drumming. And if you think His drumming isn’t that great try and remember that who he is as a person makes up for it. LONG LIVE TRE COOL!

ewanlaing

02-04-2006, 06:37 PM

as easy as it is to play, i still doubt i could have made up the intro to basket case. it's not too complicated, and not too simple.
that said, it's the best thing he's done.

DogBreath

02-04-2006, 09:41 PM

Finally... Tre cool could not play his way out of a box.
What a silly and pointless thing to say.

ewanlaing

02-05-2006, 09:08 PM

i agree.
besides, it's fair to say "i think he is overatted".
saying he can't play is wrong. he can. or he would be fired.

mellow

02-06-2006, 06:33 AM

I'm so tired of people saying that word "overatted"!! you people just live on that word when it comes to any really popular drummer.

ewanlaing

02-06-2006, 02:53 PM

don't get me wrong, i love tre cool, he was my first drumming hero, but....
billie joe armstrong claims that tre is "the best rock drummer in the world." i disagree. therefore it is my opinion that he is overatted.

Stu_Strib

02-06-2006, 03:09 PM

I'm so tired of people saying that word "overatted"!! you people just live on that word when it comes to any really popular drummer.

That's because many of us feel that being "popular" has little to do with your actual talent. Since they are more popular than their actual skill, I can only really think of one adjective:

OVERRATED! -- To overestimate the merits of; rate too highly.

brittc89

02-06-2006, 05:57 PM

I'm so tired of people saying that word "overatted"!! you people just live on that word when it comes to any really popular drummer.
Well Tre Cool is overated. He doesnt even hold a candle to Vinnie or Weckl or Gadd or Billie Ward or any of the studio guys who dont get near as much credit as they deserve for the amazing work they do everyday. Im so tired of people claiming that just because someone is poular they are good, it doesnt work that way. There are some really great drummers in the world, better than Tre Cool, that I gurantee you or I have never heard of.

averypoordrummer

02-06-2006, 08:58 PM

i like tre cools playing! he's amazing on american idiot, hearing him made me want to play the drums

averypoordrummer

02-06-2006, 09:01 PM

and he's miles better than travis barker

ewanlaing

02-06-2006, 10:57 PM

.............movingly swiftly on..................
before american idiot, i would have said tre cool was deserving of his fame as a really good drummer.
nowadays, he is not worthy of being the "best rock drummer ever". but i can't dislike him for gaining fame.

brittc89

02-07-2006, 02:26 AM

and he's miles better than travis barker
Really? I cant really see a clear winner there. Travis has some chops.

gd_trecool1972

02-07-2006, 07:35 AM

I heard that Travis Barker uses this backround drums in all his songs?
Like he's Just adding to the drums in the back?
Is that True?

ewanlaing

02-07-2006, 03:53 PM

ask in the barker thread
.............movingly swiftly on...................
i think tre cool has tried a few things that other punk drummers hadn't really at the time (but please correct me if i'm wrong). he uses snare patterns quite frequently, which is a bit unusual for punk, so i guess that makes him a bit more interesting.

playplayplay

02-07-2006, 04:36 PM

For sure, his snare patterns definately adds to the punk style drumming, I think he is doing a good job at not over doing it too.

gdlp182

02-14-2006, 01:01 AM

Tre Cool is one of the most popular rock drummers around today. Most kids who start drumming definetly have some experience with Greenday so they look into that drummer. Basicly everyone knows about Greenday, and with their like 8 total grammy wins and 5 or 6 hit videos they are basicly impossible to be unheard of. Most kids that start reminesence of greendays success, look into his drumming and instantly get hooked on Tre's innonative yet simple beats, thrashy cymbals hits , and fast tom work. That's how everyone gets addicted to Tre. Tre is definetly one of my favorite drummings closey behind barker and peart. He began at age 12 and basicly taught himself so you don't expect someone that was basicly self taught to know everything about rudiments, tempo, and all that stuff. Tre just likes to have fun with his drumming, I don' think he cares what people think. He makes millions of dollars a year doing something he loves I don't think he should start getting cocky and trying new things that can mess up his image and stuff.

drummingchick6996

02-24-2006, 04:54 AM

Look, Tre Cool may not show off and do amazing drum fills like other pop-punk drummers do (ex. Travis Barker) and he may not seem all that amazing. But I doubt a man who has been playing drums for 21 years, recorded 9 albums, and has toured over and over again doesn't know what he's doing. I believe he's a talented drummer. Just because he doesn't show off all the time doesn't mean he doesn't have skill. And I hate how people who don't even know anything about them judge their talent. They must have talent or else they wouldn't be so popular. I think its really cool when simple songs can be so popular and inspirational.
I also went to two Green Day concerts last year, and at the one in May he did an AMAZING drum solo, he didn't do it in the one in September, but this solo was amazing. It seriously sounded like more than one person playing. Another version can also be downloaded if you search for Tre Cool's drum solo. It's very inspirational and shows his years of talent.
Playing that long, whether you try to get better or not, you've gonna get better at the drums no matter what.

Stu_Strib

02-24-2006, 11:27 AM

Unless you "lip synch" all your shows for 10 years ;-)

Anyone can sound good on a recording (Pro Tools).

To be fair though, every time I see Green Day on TV playing live, it sounds pretty good (well at least the drums). Until the NFL season opener thing they did on tv, I never knew that they had a second guitarist that is always uncredited.

How would you like to be that guy?

playplayplay

02-24-2006, 03:00 PM

Well Im not a Greenday fan but I can say this; Since just learning Tre is a self taught drummer, all respect for that guy Tre. I always thought his drumming was suitable for green day, catchy simple beats, nothing wrong with that, my son goes bananas when he hears Green Day. If anybody is aware of catchy/simple, it's Tre and kids. I really dont think you need all the fills and flash when your holding a simple catchy beat. Also, you can tell very much that Tre has been to the woodshed, which truthfully not many of us make it past there. Good job Tre!

ewanlaing

02-25-2006, 05:38 PM

I never knew that they had a second guitarist that is always uncredited.

How would you like to be that guy?
he is credited on the bullet in a bible dvd. all players are.
i think tre is good enough to be called a good drummer. i don't think he is exceptional, but i disagree with anyone who says he's bad. if he was bad, he would be fired.

centralzeke

02-25-2006, 09:25 PM

How can you not have respect for Tre Cool? He's PERFECT for Green Day.

PassionateAmateur

03-20-2006, 05:41 PM

I personally like Tre Cool because of what he means to me. I grew up listening to Green Day and his drumming, therefore, it is only natural that I take a liking to him. Furthermore, I started taking lessons and working hard at becoming a good drummer because of him. I think it's up to everyone to decide for him/herself who is a great drummer and who isn't. If they had a great effect on you, then to you they are great. It's all about personal choice. I personally like Tre Cool the most, and Lars Ulrich (Metallica) comes in second.

Colin06

03-20-2006, 05:47 PM

I personally love playing his beats for 'hitchin' a ride', 'j.a.r.' and 'holiday', but he's not the best in the world.
From his generation i'd say dave grohl and joey castillo are technically better, but for outrageously punky and fast beats he beats them hands down.

laurajoe

03-21-2006, 01:03 AM

I'm sorry if my opinions hurt some of you guys. But those are my true feelings and I certainly can't lie about them, "so what" if I think Tre Cool is an inspiring true drummer everyone thinks different and you don't see me getting all mad with a person that doesn't agree with me. But again I learned to forgive.
Love Peace and Chicken Grease

AbsentDrummer

03-29-2006, 07:08 PM

Hi! I'm a Green Day fan and listen to the band everyday.
This is my thoughts:
Green Day play very simple music, we all know that! Still the music is very good and loved by many.
There are many good drummers around the world that play the drums - and just play. They make some cool fill inns and so on... wow…
I think Tré has come to the point that: "why make such a deal of it?"
If you listen to the music, you hear that Tré builds up his comps simple, often after the song. It sounds really good when the guys play together. And I think when you have come to that point where you play easy and make good music; it’s one way of being a perfect musician. I play a lot to Green Day's music and I know that if the comps had been too difficult I hadn't been such a Green Day-fan.
Not only is Tré a drummer, he's a very good artist too! You can’t sit there behind the drums and just play!

Monkey_Drummer

03-29-2006, 07:56 PM

I am a huge fan of Green Day and Tre Cool. He's not the greatest drummer sure, but I guess people like him because he doesn't overplay and it's great fun to play to his drumming. His drumming also sounds great, such as in Jesus of Suburbia. Maybe some people don't think he's "the best" because punk rocks also not the hardest music genre. For instance Jazz is much harder than punk rock (in my opinion).

Monkey_Drummer

03-29-2006, 08:04 PM

Until the NFL season opener thing they did on tv, I never knew that they had a second guitarist that is always uncredited.

How would you like to be that guy?

Well yes....I kind of thought he was uncredited, but in quite alot of concerts he's introduced....Jason White...Arkansas....yeah...

Pocketman

06-12-2006, 05:48 PM

I think Green Day is a great punk band. I saw them in concert on TV a few years ago and was blown away by how tight (and fast) they were. They sound great on Howard Stern's radio show a few years ago too. No noodling around....they just kicked right into it. Tre plays strong and solid. Great punk drummer.

However, I do think the American Idiot album is overated. Yes it's good and has some catchy songs. But I'll bet many critics and Grammy voters love it because it's all anti-Bush. It just seems to be the "cool" thing to do if you are in a band.

sgt.pepper1986

06-17-2006, 07:42 PM

I started listening to Green Day recently, and while Tre' Cool isn't the best EVER, I couldn't help but notice how fast and solid he is. I really like him and his playing. "Holiday" and "St. Jimmy" are a couple of my particular favorites.

dry_water

06-17-2006, 11:10 PM

I believe that Tre is overrated. So many drummers out there that are not appreciated enough, but need more credit. I don't know.. I mean it could be the less is more thing, but im not sure. I just dont believe he's that good. I agrre with the author of this post.

ewanlaing

06-18-2006, 03:26 PM

yes, i think he is overratted, but i think he is good as well. i'm often surprised when i see them play on tv at how much better he is than i thought, from just listening to cds. their live dvd really impressed me, and although his playing wasn't really spectacular, it was still really great and worthy of praise. i think due to the bands popularity, it gets blown out of all proportion, and i'm constantly listing hundreds of drummers to people who say that tre cool is untouchable. but it's not their fault, or his i guess. it's just the way things are.

stevefty

06-25-2006, 10:29 PM

dom

06-25-2006, 10:48 PM

i dont think tre' is overrated. like many have said he gives the song what it needs. when i first started playing my drum teacher had me look at some old green day charts i was amazed. this guy is so famous and he has songs where something is so simple then so complex. he does what he loves and is good at it. his speed is amazing and he makes drumming look so darn fun. he is one of the reasons i started drumming. really tre and ringo have a lot alike.

BrynnerAgassi

06-26-2006, 10:53 AM

OK Tre Cool, well i can honestly say he is just another run of the mill punk drummer. I mean the guy is a good drummer for the band... But he did have a bit more speed to him in his earlier days, now as he matured and their music matured a bit, he has lost sight of the speed. WHICH IS FINE, speed does not make you a great drummer, but there is really nothing too special about Tre aside he is with Green Day and endorsed by ludwig and zildjian. Aside from that Adrian Young of No doubt was probably better and Travis Barker (even though i dont like him) he is better of a drummer.

Darmikalus

06-26-2006, 05:35 PM

I like tre cool, i think hes alittle more unique than some of the other drummers in popular music today. i Loved his playing on dookie, and his drums sounded awesome, i havnt heard all f american idiot (a plus side of never listning to the radio) and i dont hear good things about that album.

as for the overrated issue, i personally never hear that uch hype about him, from drummers, or non drummers, i think hes underrated personally, as IMO he is more solid, and musical than travis barker, who gets alot of hype from non musicians and musicians.

^^^ dont rip on me for the travis stuff it is just an OPINION

beatsMcGee

06-26-2006, 06:40 PM

i dont dislike Tre at all, but hes not my fav by any means, i think like alot of others said that he fits in well with Green Day and plays solid punk rock music.. i will grant him the fact that i have listened to some tracks off of the many greenday albums i have and without a doubt there are a few licks he'll throw in once in a while that will really catch my attention b/c of the speed, or how damn good they sounded... hes a good drummer, not the best, but good enough for Green Day and so whats the harm?

p.s. he does lack a little variety in his playing.. that is one the of the complaints i have against him.. alot of his stuff sounds the same track for track, and he has this one really common fill he throws down all the time.. its just a slow snare roll.. and he over uses it... but yea that's my gripe with him.. but like i said up top sometimes hes capable of good stuff.

-peace

mrs.wega

06-26-2006, 07:06 PM

I think Tré is a very good drummer for his genere.
Maybe he wouldn't have been so popular if he didn't play in Green Day, but that does not meen he is popular JUST because he is in Green Day.
A great and popular band also needs a great drummer to become popular!
If the drummer sucks, the music does as well.
Remember that!

stevefty

06-27-2006, 10:20 AM

How can yousay Tre Cool's lost his speed? He has matured as a drummer so maybe he's not as flashy as he was but there no way he's slowed down.

ewanlaing

06-27-2006, 06:27 PM

I don't really think he is over rated. He is great at what he does. I really don't think there would be any better drummer for green day. Can you imagine Neil Peart in green day?!?!?!? but seriously Tre Cool is the man for simple pop-punk. The drumming on American Idiot is great and simple at the same time.
i totally agree that he does probably the best anyone can with green day. but i've had a lot of people come up to me saying "you play drums? that tre cool, he must be, like, the best player ever!" which, clearly, he isn't.
but to be fair, he is not over-rated by other drummers, as far as i know.

Baxter

06-30-2006, 12:52 AM

believe it or not I actually use to live down the street from Tre. I guess I was too young to be a fair judge of his drummingm, but I remember hearing him. The stuff he does for Green Day is usually pretty simple, but it's very solid and he pulls it off well. I think what Tre is best at is making simple things sound really cool.

Whatsername06

07-04-2006, 04:03 AM

Personally, I think Tre' plays a very simple genre of music with a passion of purpose that amazes me. I never was a huge Green day fan until I spotted this guy giving the skins a working over. I had the priveledge of standing just behind him onstage, and watching a clinic in punk rock drumming. And for those of you who say you don't know if he could ever play anything but punk, trust me on this one..he certainly CAN..and with the same 'take no prisoners' attitude that makes his punk drumming such a joy to listen to! I heard him and Mike jamming backstage..this amazing JAZZ number..and I sat transfixed. This guy isn't just some insane version of Alex Van Halen on acid. He can truly PLAY those things he sits behind. True, he's VERY adrenaline fueled, but that is one aspect of his playing that I adore! he doesn't play the drums..he throws them a few body blocks. I love "Are We The Waiting" for the drum driven direction it goes into. Incredible. And I'm not a 14 year old infatuated fan, either. But when he used to play that minimalist kit from the Dookie days, and I hear what he got out of it, as opposed to someone who played those overblown kits of typical 80's bands, and what they got out of it, I was left staring in wonder, saying to myself."How did he get THAT out of those??" I've tried playing. I stink. But I respect Tre' for his unwavering attack on the ears of America. I welcome the next assult. As for his being endorsed, I've heard alot worse than him with endorsement contracts!! Tre' has an endorsement contract because he inspires people to want to be drummers in the first place. He (and Green day) have mass appeal. He's a manufacturers ..ahem..damp...dream.... I agree with the ones of you who love him for his quick hits and the mania that drives his drumming. Good Lord, he's fast, furious, and leaves me wanting so much more!! Bring it on again, Tre'!!! Can't wait for the next album and tour! I'll be right there again. Hopefully, in that ringside seat!!

ewanlaing

07-04-2006, 03:11 PM

i was gonna reply to that guy, but you just put it so much better. it's nice to have someone voice a positive opinion of tre without using a billion explation marks and using words like "god" and "best".

ege_the_drummer

07-12-2006, 02:52 AM

I've got them all, and I still can't pick out a better drummer.

I can, but anyway...here's my two cents on Tre:

While maybe not being the best drummer that ever lived, Tre is good for the type of music he plays. His beats are very simple (and in some cases, a little too simple) but the music they play is very catchy. However, a lot of his fills are very good and that makes Green Day's music lots of fun to play to. And I agree with the other posts that said Tre did get lucky and is in a popular band.

MyNameIsRyan

07-12-2006, 03:44 AM

I think Minority went a little over the edge because people do have a right to say they dislike Tre as long as they have a valid reason. I like Green Day and Tre is a good drummer and fits the band, but I think also his personality and attitude is another reason why so much people love him.

fullmoon

07-12-2006, 04:36 AM

ive heard his solo witch was pretty good and his stuff on dookie was great but hes kinda gone down hill to simpler stuff

METAL_DRUMMER

07-12-2006, 05:03 AM

gusty

07-16-2006, 10:48 AM

When i started playing Jesus of Suburbia, man that song like opened my eyes up to the real drumming world, kinda like i was doing simple kinda fills and stuff, but now im doing more complicated/interesting/funner fills. Oh, and i love that fill that he does in Jesus of S.

wnameth

07-20-2006, 06:25 AM

I have learned as a musician to just be very humble, and in life. I think Green Day is alright, good catchy stuff, i learn from my dad NOT to dislike anything, and that is hard for me to do, there are only some types of music i absolutely hate.
I would say there no point in complaining that Tre' isn't as good as you buy makes more money or is more popular, what's the point, I think everything that happens, has a reason.

So ya, he's not amazing, but if i was in green day, i would be happy.

-Wes

T.Y

08-23-2006, 03:56 PM

I think Tre Cool is comparable to Tommy Lee, simple beats, normal stuff, not over technically challenged, but their beats are just so damn solid and stable and consistent, and this is especially important when playing live

So, it really depends what kinda drummer you aim to be, and hence whether you decide to learn from him or not. For me, I learn from everyone i can, so tre is on my list for his solid beats, for techniques, i turn to many others like portnoy, yoshiki etc etc

In green day's songs, every beat is nice and clear, hell who even needs tabs for that?

adrian

08-24-2006, 05:02 AM

The thing about watching drummers is you wanna see something cool, some neat trick, fiil, etc, and when you don't, you start to wonder... "Okay, how good is this guy really?" But in most cases, when the drummer doesn't doo a neat trick or something like that, I start to respect him. The worst drummer in the world could have everything he needs, but show off way to much and look bad. Personaly, I like Tre Cool jsut because he keeps it simple. He ahs good tempo, plays what's needed, and that shows skill.

DWfan20005

03-09-2007, 09:00 PM

I really prefer Tre Cool's drumming over Travis Barker's. Tre plays for the music while Travis plays to get on MTV( that doesnt have a lotta music anymore).

teejcombos

03-10-2007, 02:57 PM

i used to be in a band that did green day covers. most of the songs were pretty easy to pick up, but sometimes he does some major butt kicking. i have a lot of respect for him as a drummer and such, but i hate green day's overall concoction of music, and his alias makes me want to shoot myself.

DWfan20005

03-14-2007, 04:01 AM

xcrazzy2xbass

03-16-2007, 12:27 AM

yeah i guess he is a little over rated, but still he's got some skill. All his songs are simple, but solid enough that he keeps the band going. Yet overall he's a pretty talented drummer. I'm a little more of a metal fan my self, so I look for speed, accuracy, and fancy tom work. But i guess you have to look past the style and find the skill.

Vermicide

05-21-2007, 11:42 PM

It is hard to judge him because of the band he is in. They don't do anything complex enough show his talent. Anyone can take the place of Green Day and knowone would notice. I personally hate Green Day because they are so liberal and anti-american. The hardest song they have on drums is Basket Case and I learned it in about 10 minutes. He just doesn't do anything special.

He has energy, which is what punk is mainly composed of...and personally, I think it is of bad music tastes to dislike a band because they are "anti-American"...plus, they really don't hate America as a whole...they just hate Bush!

punkdrummer1

05-22-2007, 03:22 AM

Like alot of early 90's punk/new wave, Tré's drumming featured fast up beat tempo's, with catchy beats and fills. Tré's the true "get in your stuck in your head drum part" drummer :D

nhzoso

05-22-2007, 04:53 AM

He has energy, which is what punk is mainly composed of...and personally, I think it is of bad music tastes to dislike a band because they are "anti-American"...plus, they really don't hate America as a whole...they just hate Bush!

Yeah, most of that is just for show though. Have you ever heard of a band that supported bush and wrote songs about how great things are in america? No, because it would be a disaster and none of the rebellious teen's and college kids would buy it. It's just a cliche and it gets old after awhile.

I do like their music and think they are a very talented band. I love the cover of lennon's Working class hero. They did that song justice in my eyes.

drumbuddy105133

06-07-2007, 07:09 PM

Like alot of early 90's punk/new wave, Tré's drumming featured fast up beat tempo's, with catchy beats and fills. Tré's the true "get in your stuck in your head drum part" drummer :D

I agree. I like their old stuff a lot better. Dookie, Nimrod, Warning, etc. Some of my favorite's are Welcome To Paradise, Basketcase, Warning, When I Come Around, and Minority. It's not that I don't like their newer image/music, It's just, well....I don't know. It doesn't appeal to me as much.

maniac-drummer

06-11-2007, 10:02 PM

I agree. I like their old stuff a lot better. Dookie, Nimrod, Warning, etc. Some of my favorite's are Welcome To Paradise, Basketcase, Warning, When I Come Around, and Minority. It's not that I don't like their newer image/music, It's just, well....I don't know. It doesn't appeal to me as much.
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i do actually think he is a good drummer.
only that because i love the solo across all toms in the song 'american idiot'
that has got to be the only part of him that i like. also the dact that he isnt afraid
of goin crazy and doing fast stuff on stage and recording stuff.
their new songs and album dont appeal to me at all, they have totally gone from being
a unique band to a boring common band.
i loved their Dookie and bolevard of broken dreams [how ever they spell it]. they really
were a good band but now when i hear them i just turn it off.

pinky x

Mediocrefunkybeat

06-11-2007, 10:50 PM

Boulevard of Broken Dreams is from 'American Idiot' the album you so hate.

Dookie is great though...

rendezvous_drummer

06-12-2007, 01:55 AM

When I come around is pretty much as good as it gets imo.

BoxcarDrummer182

06-12-2007, 02:03 AM

i feel late saying this but. tre cool is deffinetly a great punk drummer. great drumming has nothing to do with speed or flashy-ness. it's all about keeping time. if you can keep a beat, i think you're a good drummer. but tre can plase a beat add good fills and come up with simple stuff. but at the same time good stuff. he's not endorced because he's in a poplar band. he's endorced because he's a good drummer. if my band was popular but i sucked, i most likely wouldn't be endorced. so the reason i think tre's good because he's simple enough to be awsome. if that makes sence. but barker, freese, willard, parsons and all the good punk drummers aren't endorced because of the popularity, because of their playing. tre's one of my idols and influences. the first song i could play was christy road. i just think he's a good all around drummer.

shawn

06-13-2007, 03:57 AM

Tre is probably one of the first people that made me want to play drums, i dont think Green Day would be the same without him, his personality is hilarious. His stuff usually isnt too complicated but is alot fun to play

Rednimnam

09-05-2007, 04:27 AM

YOU'RE ALL NUTS!

Tre Cool is REALLY GOOD! Of course the stuff he playsi n Green Day is simple. Their music is simple with political lyrics. If you actually knew much about Tre, you'd know he does hardcore jazz with another band with craaaaazzzzyyyyy drumming. That's why his beat are so hoppy. He incorporates his jazz background into what he plays, and no its not bass on 1 and 3 and snare on 2 and 4. That's absurd. He plays many sixteenth notes in most of his songs and he plays his fill with grace. I've never seen him mess-up at a performance and he plays what he plays with EASE. That's why he's good. He makes faces and thinks about other stuff while playing. ITS EASY FOR HIM. He has had 20 years of experience + and is muc hbetter than most people know. He is ticketed off as simple because no one has heard is other stuff.