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Drummer Karl

10-24-2006, 11:42 PM

Hello friends!

Well, as I said in a few posts or in my Tama intro video: I`ll record professionally with mics etc. and I`ve finished one of many following recordings today! I hope you like it, just signed up at purevolume.com so it should be easy to listen to it.
the tune I recorded today was a nice bright swing...I played with a play-along there and I played on my Tama Superstar.

I hope you can enjoy...more coming soon. so, comments are very appreciated! :-)

here it is:

http://www.purevolume.com/karldegenhardt

Karl

Mapex589

10-24-2006, 11:47 PM

Man that sounds sweet! I really enjoyed your playing. I love jazz I just can't play it worth a damn. I am working on it though. Great job Karl!!

Mediocrefunkybeat

10-24-2006, 11:47 PM

Karl, that was outstanding. You have a lovely feel, particularly on the ride cymbal and your comping patterns and dynamic control are admirable and well appreciated. I am genuinely impressed and it's not often that I am this impressed with any member's playing, let alone someone in your age category. Your swing feel is easy, yet pacy and pleasant to listen to. Really Karl, go out and find a good local jazz band and get more recordings up like this. I'd buy the album for certain.

TitanSound

10-24-2006, 11:56 PM

I think Duncan has pretty much summed up what I was going too say!

I cannot confess to listening to jazz that often but I can tell you have an amazing feel for it.

Karl, you have an awesome talent. Nuture it and develop it and you will be listed on this very site one day!

Muckster

10-25-2006, 12:02 AM

drummersgroove

10-25-2006, 01:03 AM

Karl,

Hey that was great!! I liked your comping, very well placed and not too much.

I thought you rushed the tempo in some places but overall very well done. Don't be afraid to break up the ride pattern also: (ding ding a ding, ding dinga dinga ding).

Great Job!!!!
I agree with Muckster, a bar or two of just 'dings' works really well in pieces like this I think - but that's not detracting from your great playing though.

When I opened the page, I was searching for your song, because the one that started playing, I thought was just someone elses playing, i.e a professional band/drummer...then I realised it was you! Great job, looking forward to hearing more from you in the future.

jollymosher

10-25-2006, 01:53 AM

Hey thanks for the link and measage karl, ill check it out in a min when i get on my computer with sound.

meandhimcallitus

10-25-2006, 02:16 AM

Wow great stuff Karl!
It has been one of the most solid and tasteful jazz drumming ive heard in a while.
Keep it up, for real.
The only thing I didnt enjoy was the Tom sound though. ( I wasn't completely turned off by it , just wasn't my sound)
Keep'em comin!

/chris

tonedef

10-25-2006, 02:19 AM

Excellent Karl . Jazz is close my heart not only as a drummer but a pionist and guitar player . JAZZ JAZZ JAZZ thats where its at!!!!!!!!!

samthebeat

10-25-2006, 02:29 AM

nice one Karl, you have come a long way since the first recordings you did, and they were good. You sound way more groovy and confident now though, your hats nice and snappy, everything is bouncing along niceley!...very groovey indeed.

Very well done mate.

GRUNTERSDAD

10-25-2006, 04:20 AM

Excellent work my friend. I cant wait to see your name on the first page. Keep up the good work and keep us entertained.

rendezvous_drummer

10-25-2006, 05:38 AM

Karl, let me tell you this:
You have talent, no doubt about that! I loved your feel, rythm, and sound. Very jazzy man. I can't wait to hear more from you, always looking forward to it man, especially the file I sent you. As Duncan said, if you had an album out, I'd be the first to pick up a copy. You're an amazing musician.
Mike

dasilvs

10-25-2006, 06:25 AM

Good stuff, my man. Keep it up!

HardcoreLogo

10-25-2006, 07:09 AM

Hey, that was nice Karl! I like how you kept the comping sparce and let the soloist breath a little( was that the Steve Houghton play along?). The ride is soundin' sweet!!!

somedrummer

10-25-2006, 07:15 AM

Wow. That was great. Really. Wow.

How old are you again? I wish I could do that.

Nergretty

10-25-2006, 10:38 AM

Great playin', Karl!

Nerg

RudimentalDrummer

10-25-2006, 11:32 AM

Hey Karl...that was great. I like it very much , very well executed. I mean you've your style and it's nice.eee really.

PS: - How are you able to record it so nicely (the Music with your drums)...teach me can?

Drummer Karl

10-25-2006, 04:02 PM

oh yeah, so many replies already! Great!

so, a few questions I`ll answer now:

Rudimental Drummer: I recorded the drums in my normal drumroom (no dampening etc.) with 7 mics (1 bass, 1 snare, 3 toms, 2 overheads/condensers). After I recorded it Daniel (great music-technique guy) mixed it with the music, he did this with a program called "Cubase"...at the first look everything looks pretty unprofessional but if you look two and more times on our recording stuff, it is actually very professional.

Somedrummer: I`m 15. birthday: 02-21-1991

Hardcore Logo: I don`t know if it`s a play-along from Steve Houghton, I got it from www.music4drums.net , downloaded it and deleted the drums with WaveLab...

overall thanks alot for the comments here!!!! :-)

PS: We will also keep up improving the drumsound...

Karl

samthebeat

10-25-2006, 05:41 PM

those play alongs are aewsome, very good find, not only are you a good drummer, but also very good at finding cool stuff on the internet...a usefull skill.

im just sorting them all out now on cool edit.....wicked

Batera945

10-25-2006, 05:49 PM

karl i gotta say u have some talent and ur only 15!!! really underestimate you when u posted taht forum about giving lessons. man if I could i would take some jazz courses with u ! lol but yeah man nice playing... keep it up!! we want MORE!! lol

badlydubbedsean

10-25-2006, 05:56 PM

Wow. I don't know much about jazz, but I am intrugued. For a 15 year old, I agree with everyone else. That was amazing. I hope you nurture your skills because it's people like you who deserve to be respected drummers. It sounded brilliant, and I really loved the feel you have. You felt at one with the music. Just keep going, you might get the chance to show more and more people your talent. That is so important.

boomboomda

10-25-2006, 07:03 PM

Karl, you rock, or better you swing, nah that doesn't sound right either.
Good job dude, richtig geil.

Drummer Karl

10-25-2006, 11:18 PM

thanks alot friends...wow, I get good feedback...I´m also very happy with it...next week I can record a few more, till now Daniel (sound-technique man) is pretty busy and he has the perfect edited play-alongs on his Lap-top...okay, overall: MORE COMING SOON!

and for now, thanks alot for these comments!

more are appreciated! =)

Karl

tomgrosset

10-26-2006, 03:55 AM

That was terrific, Karl. Well done.

The only suggestion I can give you would to be to break up the ride pattern a little bit but other than that, it was tremendous. You let the soloist respire when combined with your playing which was awesome.

I really liked your drumset-sound.
The chorus was very captivating with the saxaphone as well.

I really dig this tune by the way.

-Tom

Drummer Karl

10-26-2006, 09:17 PM

man if I could i would take some jazz courses with u ! lol but yeah man nice playing... keep it up!! we want MORE!! lol

hahaha, thanks buddy. Yeah, if I could I would!! Or giving a little clinic in front of you all! mhhh...I`d feel so good! :-)

thanks...!

more thoughts on that?

Karl

aahznightsky

10-26-2006, 11:21 PM

Ah Karl, your playing is fantastic ... there's no way I would guess that the drummer on the recording was your age without knowing beforehand ... you've got gobs of musical maturity. Your comping was great, and so was your feel ... I definitely think that you could be going far as a jazz drummer. There was one section in there where you weren't locked into the piece ... but I'm sure you've noticed that. Tremendous job Karl

Drummer Karl

10-27-2006, 01:13 AM

Hey Aahz...damn, that is nice of you! I think a statement like "you`ve got musical maturity" is one of the nicest (with big respect to the other compliments)!
thanks buddy...thanks alot for that!
It could be that there was one part wich didn`t fit or so but when I play it`s the thing that I just feel where to do what comping. I just listened to the playing one time or two times max. and so it was everything improvised. Just felt it...

anyway, thanks alot for youropinion! :-)

PS: Next week I can record more! =) ...so, more comments on that??

Karl

Robin

10-27-2006, 01:34 AM

Damn, Karl! You're one heck of a drummer! This sounds fabulous. And you should definitely go for a jazz career. You definitely got the talent for it.

YAMAHA DRUMMER

10-27-2006, 01:46 AM

Karl , your playing is great and you have a nice touch and feel .... and your sound is great too , the only thing i can say is , work on your dynamic ... there are parts that you " hit " the drums and cymbals instead of " playing " them .
Bottom line - you sound great !!!!!!!

Tuxido

10-27-2006, 05:23 AM

Great playing ! i really enjoyed that, but i must say, every time you hit your high tom it made jump, haha,

Edit: Oh, and check your PMs

kacperivo

10-27-2006, 10:03 AM

well Karl, i was always jealous about the amount of feedback you get... and i'm still jealous :P. but hey, you know what? you got the SWING goin'! and it's not that kind of swing you can be taught, it's something that's in you. not many can play like this.
i love this tune, cause it just flows, it's smooth, unpretentious, groovy jazz, the one that's the most precious one (in my humble opinion) :). keep it up man, have fun! i hope to play a drum battle with ya one day! ;)

Drummer Karl

10-27-2006, 07:21 PM

Great playing ! i really enjoyed that, but i must say, every time you hit your high tom it made jump, haha,

Edit: Oh, and check your PMs

yes...my high tom sounds really extreme and it sings very much. but I like this...hehehe...no, really.
about the PMs: Did you write something to me??? and if, I never received one...mhhh...

PS: hey guys, thanks sooooo much for your advice and your compliments!!

Karl

Drummer Karl

10-27-2006, 10:26 PM

the only thing i can say is , work on your dynamic ... there are parts that you " hit " the drums and cymbals instead of " playing " them.

yes...it will be hard to improve that...that is actually my style wich I developed till now...Elvin Jones influenced me so much...but yeah, will try to improve that but it will be difficult when the emotions and the feeling is with me while playing.

but okay, you heard mostly those loud "hits" on the snare drum but actually I also play very much of the comping very soft...as I told KCDrummer and JazzGregg: Actually the mixer causes that you just hear the loud hits and not the soft comping I also play. The mixer is from my friend (he is much older) and he plays more Pop etc. and is often on the stage, so he also made such a Poppy setting for the drums, especially the snare drum. ...okay, sounds more like an excuse now but its the truth...will improve the sound and...mhhh, style...mhh, but first the sound, because I find my style pretty okay...

PS: thanks alot for any advice!!! =) any more comments or advice?

Karl

YAMAHA DRUMMER

10-27-2006, 10:50 PM

yes...it will be hard to improve that...that is actually my style wich I developed till now...Elvin Jones influenced me so much...but yeah, will try to improve that but it will be difficult when the emotions and the feeling is with me while playing.

but okay, you heard mostly those loud "hits" on the snare drum but actually I also play very much of the comping very soft...as I told KCDrummer and JazzGregg: Actually the mixer causes that you just hear the loud hits and not the soft comping I also play. The mixer is from my friend (he is much older) and he plays more Pop etc. and is often on the stage, so he also made such a Poppy setting for the drums, especially the snare drum. ...okay, sounds more like an excuse now but its the truth...will improve the sound and...mhhh, style...mhh, but first the sound, because I find my style pretty okay...

PS: thanks alot for any advice!!! =) any more comments or advice?

Karl
O.K my friend , it's cool , your playing is great. i'm 12 years older then you and i wish i could play like you when i was at your age....
i understand the mixer situation .... i know what you talking about . but again , the bottom line is that you feel and play jazz great . we all get emotions while we play... and that's how musician's should create , if it's feel less is nothing .
agian - your playing is very good
take care

Drummer Karl

10-27-2006, 11:37 PM

O.K my friend , it's cool , your playing is great. i'm 12 years older then you and i wish i could play like you when i was at your age....
i understand the mixer situation .... i know what you talking about . but again , the bottom line is that you feel and play jazz great . we all get emotions while we play... and that's how musician's should create , if it's feel less is nothing .
agian - your playing is very good
take care

yes buddy, no problem...didn`t wanna take offence or so. all cool...and yeah, my "style" always developes...and I think this is normal, but I think that style what you can hear there is yet pretty much this what I`d like now...so, I`m pretty pleased, maybe it is really a bit too hard...mhhh...you make me think ;-) thanks! that is the fundamental for developement.

I`ll record more soon (in a week or so...)

Karl

joeybeats

10-28-2006, 06:45 PM

Playa! Just awesome, Karl.

LDGuy

10-29-2006, 02:35 AM

Dude, you got that track nailed. Not rushed in my opinion, the band just didn't keep up with you (although no offence to them, they are stuck on a CD).

Only other thing I would point out is that the A sections of the head are in quite obvious 2 feel, you played 4 time in these. For a gear change, I would really make a point of that feel. Otherwise, it's feeling good. Man, I heard your old stuff from a few years ago, and frankly, I wasn't so impressed, but this is cool. Just go out and play and get off the bloody interweb!

Peace. L.

groove meister

10-29-2006, 01:16 PM

karl my man, very very impressive stuff - never spoken to you before but i was waiting on these recordings since i saw your video intro to your kit a week ago - i gotta say im not disappointed at all! Ive been playing for about 7 years but im still to discover and learn the art of jazz drumming! I must say i feel quite inspired by your playing, very solid and neat.. and to be honest, so professional! You will probably make a living outta this in the future :P

Richard

Synthetik

10-29-2006, 01:35 PM

Herr Karl,
That is a really great job!

You sure have a lot of nice stuff for a 15 year old...I have some Shure mics and a Behringer mixer picked out so that I will be able to make recordings in my drumroom.

And here is something else: I just didn't expect that I'd be listening to a 15-year old in Europe play jazz. Everyone I know that listens to jazz is 35 or over. It's cool to see that young people are keeping jazz alive, and especially outside the USA.

Jazz, IMO is a sophisticated taste.

Drummer Karl

10-29-2006, 08:28 PM

hey everybody...so soooo nice of you, those nice comments make me work even harder...thanks alot!!!! More stuff coming next week!

LDGuy: also thanks so much for your comment and advice but I have one question: What do you mean with it exactly?? I think I know...just not sure...

Karl

LDGuy

10-29-2006, 08:54 PM

Fangoes

10-30-2006, 01:41 AM

great stuff mate i really liked the groove and your consistency

keep it up and i cant wait to hear the next recording!

Drummer Karl

10-30-2006, 09:31 PM

A 2 feel in jazz is where the bass player plays on beat 1 and 3 instead of all four beats. The drums change accordingly, but it's much more a feel/accentation thing than something definable. Listen to a classic tune like Doxy (Sonny) or Good Bait (Trane) for examples of this. It's probably the whole head that's in the two feel now I listen to it. Basically, like Doxy, follow the bass player, so you're playing with his lines, espcially when he plays the hits (at 0:15, - ba baah ba, that dotted thing). That way when it opens up to the sax solo after the head, the feel will change.

oh yeah, now I understood exactly what do you mean mate...I listened to the tune again and you are right, 2 time feel and 4 time feel on the contra bass.
Very nice heard my man and thanks for the advice!!! :-) ...but what could you play with a 2 time feel? such a bluesy half time groove??

PS: also thanks to the others here, those tips really are helpful friends!! =)

more comments are appreciated, any thoughts, tips etc?

Karl

Drummer Karl

10-31-2006, 09:50 PM

Herr Karl,
That is a really great job!
And here is something else: I just didn't expect that I'd be listening to a 15-year old in Europe play jazz. Everyone I know that listens to jazz is 35 or over. It's cool to see that young people are keeping jazz alive, and especially outside the USA.

Jazz, IMO is a sophisticated taste.

thanks buddy...I like this German word you use in the beginning! ;-)
but seriously: Many people say to me that it is kinda unusual that someone in my age is so interessted in Jazz music.
...and also I asked this to myself: Why? and I noticed that I just have to do it and to live it...I don`t know the reason why I (my character, my brain) likes the melodies, the rythms. I don`t wanna be "cheesy" but I think it`s because of such a maturity...I think, I hope.

thanks alot for your comment!!

Karl

gusty

11-06-2006, 12:20 PM

Drummer Karl

11-06-2006, 04:41 PM

hey mate, well done, look no offence or anything-and this is just from my extremely limited knowladge of jazz but...to me it just doesnt sound too hard, just like your solo back from a while ago, sorry, i must be missing something somewhere, but i cant really hear anything special in it. if someone could point out the hard points of this piece that would be appriciated, thanks

well...I don`t take it as offence.
just a question: What music styles do you mainly play/listen to? It is your point of view that you didn`t find this interessting or "special"...and actually this was one of many goals for me: Don`t play as much as you can, it`s NOT a solo. I played with a band together...also NOT to play so hard, it should fit to the music.
haha, also: my solo...oh damn, I should be arressted for it (and this is really what I think). It wasn`t as jazzy as now and I made biiig progress with feeling, technique, comping etc.

overall I`m no chops-man with a huge talent for "entertainment soling", like Elvin for example, too.

so, to all the people out there, what do you find "special" on my playing?

Karl

rendezvous_drummer

11-06-2006, 11:04 PM

Hey KARL!! I love the new stuff man, especially the sound of that snare man!! Excellent job my friend. You really played with feeling man.

Drummer Karl

11-06-2006, 11:22 PM

thanks alot mate...wow, and this snare drum gets cool feedback! :-) It`s my "normal" Tama Superstar Custom 14x5.5"...sounds cool and is very versatile!

so, yeah, I wrote PMs to many persons (sorry for that, just wanted to mention)...

the first NEW tune is called "Relaxin` at night", a more abstract light tune with a chilled contra bass solo in it.

the second one is from my new "album" called "Rockolate", the song is called "route to classic rock"...I hope you like both songs!

PS: I know, my timing isn`t perfect...I was pretty exited when I recorded... ;-)

so, enjoy, comments are very appreciated!

IMPORTANT EDIT: Added one more Jazz songs, one with some brush work, actually also wanted to add Pesos by Peter Erskine but I can`t add more... :(

Karl

aahznightsky

11-07-2006, 12:07 AM

Karl the new recordings sound wonderful as well ... I really don't have anything new or different to say, but you know what I've said so that's a good thing hehe. These are all play alongs? We gotta hear you with live musicians in our faces!

jonescrusher

11-07-2006, 12:30 AM

Hey Karl, great set of recordings, a very professional sound. Your jazz tone is very authentic, too. Yeah, there were some timing issues here and there, just keep practicing with a click! The next step should be to increase your comping repertoire - no time like the present to pick up a copy of Art of Bop Drumming by John Riley;)
Good stuff.

Tuxido

11-07-2006, 02:09 AM

I really like the brush work in "new business"
I dont really have anything to say except that "route to classic rock" maybe needed a more powerfull bass drum ? but its probly just my speakers doing that.

post more !

gusty

11-07-2006, 12:29 PM

well...I don`t take it as offence.
just a question: What music styles do you mainly play/listen to? It is your point of view that you didn`t find this interessting or "special"...and actually this was one of many goals for me: Don`t play as much as you can, it`s NOT a solo. I played with a band together...also NOT to play so hard, it should fit to the music.
haha, also: my solo...oh damn, I should be arressted for it (and this is really what I think). It wasn`t as jazzy as now and I made biiig progress with feeling, technique, comping etc.

overall I`m no chops-man with a huge talent for "entertainment soling", like Elvin for example, too.

so, to all the people out there, what do you find "special" on my playing?

Karl
:)Prog
haha i guess im just not a jazzy sorta guy, i like jazz, just into harder stuff. well dont but, wish i could get in the studio.

Drummer Karl

11-07-2006, 08:55 PM

thanks guys, really nice of you all!!!
I`ll try to record more next week or so...also the play-alongs jonescrusher sent me.
Overall I`m pretty happy with it...but I`m pretty worried sometimes about the timing. :-(

about the comping: SOmething wonderful happened today: My drum teacher gave me the Jack DeJohnette comping-coordination school. What a nice book!
and a good drummer friend of mine (he goes to university now) found my stuff cool and he wanted to give address to some nice Jazz guys he played with before studying time. Yipieeee! this could mean that I join MAYBE a very good jazz combo soon...this would be so nice!

just this one thing: TIMING. oh dear, I`m worried, yes. I often like to play faster than the track...and the thing which totures me so much about it: Actually my timing isn`t that bad...I`m just menthaly too weak when recording.

but however, I notice it and I work on it...

PS: How do you find the brush work? I got my brushes a few weeks ago and I love the feeling with them...it makes fun! :-)

Karl

Mediocrefunkybeat

11-07-2006, 08:55 PM

Drummer Karl

11-07-2006, 10:47 PM

Damn you have a nice touch, especially on that ride cymbal. You really bring out an excellent tone from your entire kit. Ironically on the rock song (a tribute to Rush perhaps... heh) you're a little light on your touch. Hitting the bass drum harder would have helped propel it a little more, but that said, in your jazz playing, a light touch is exactly what you need on the bass drum. Yeah there were very slight timing issues, but they can be sorted out easily, ultimately you have a great touch and a lovely tone from your entire kit.

thanks alot mate...!!! :-)
I work on my timing...and I hope that I`ll and can improve it...I`ll also try to record some more soon, also Jazz.
For this Rock song: yes, the drums don`t fit into the rock sheme perfectly we also didn`t change anything on the settings...and I played the bass drum a bit too light, you are right. hehe, I think Jazz is just my blood. :-)

any more comments?

Karl

Synthetik

11-08-2006, 03:12 AM

I am envious. What teen drummer doesn't dream of a nice kit, recording equipment and the focus,talent and feel to play like that!

I have a feeling that I'll be attending a drum show in a few years, and Karl will be signing autographs.

"Discovered on Drummerworld."

YAMAHA DRUMMER

11-08-2006, 03:20 AM

Hey ,
have you seen the private message i worte you ?

boomboomda

11-08-2006, 03:25 AM

Hey ,
have you seen the private message i worte you ?

Hey Karl,

I did the same.

RudimentalDrummer

11-08-2006, 03:28 AM

Karl

To be honest...Kekekeke !..after listening to your Classic Rock & Relaxia (Jazz)...I think you make a much better Jazz Drummer than a Rock Drummer...maybe because Jazz is in you as I see.

I like your Ting-ga-ling, Ting-ga-ling - Ridiing the Ride in Relaxia....pretty fast and sure Swing.....good job bro.

Drummer Karl

11-08-2006, 11:58 PM

Hey, thanks so much everybody for these nice comments!!
I`m happy that you enjoy and everything...and I`ll try to record more during the next weeks, we`ll see.

Rudimental Drummer: Thanks again...about the swing pattern:

The Swing pattern is as you know this 1-2de3-4de-1-2de3...etc. the simple thing I`ve done: I just worked hard on it. I think when you know how to play and what notes do you play it is just a thing of practicing. First I wanted to play this pricipal pattern just like a "chinese with his eating sticks": I just used the rebound...you know? I also played the grip in the "normal" position, so this american grip (I hope it`s the right word), this meant even more volume.
After practicing the ride pattern alot I got used to that "timpani" style on the ride cymbal, it`s very difficult in the beginning, no doubt, but I played more and more in this postion (also when playing normal grooves) and after time I got used to that.
To focus more on that timpani: There are many ways to do that grip (also called "french grip"...?). My drum teacher wanted me to play it in the most extreme way, so that I hold the stick EXTREMLY open. I noticed that THIS version is just too extreme and also pretty rare, the most Jazz drummers play just the normal french grip. I had to learn much with my fingers to get such a swing. <---- that is the next point.
It`s of course better to play/support the stick with finger work. It is very important to do that and NOT to use just the rebound (what would you make when playing at Tempo 40?! :-D)
So, overall there are many techniques (maybe watch some of Derrick`s vids with Moeller etc) and it`s a thing of relaxing...and this is thew next thing I wanna mention: Relaxing, feeling.
When playing Jazz you play relaxed, you feel the music, the pulse and you just do it. After you analysed your own technique (with a mirror, or on the practice pad e.g.) you just do it when playing. Your arm should be relaxed, your fingers, too, everything...not cramped!! This motion you make on the Ride cymbal is also whipping, a wave motion, looks relaxing. That is why I totally agree with Jack`s (and many Jazz drummer`s) statement that playing on the kit is like dancing.

so, just work on it...I`ll keep up working hard also... :-)

good luck and any more comments?

Karl

DogBreath

11-09-2006, 01:55 AM

Drummer Karl

11-09-2006, 07:30 PM

Great stuff Karl, really enjoyable to listen to. I was surprised at how much better you are at jazz and swing than rock. With so many drummers it's the opposite. Do you find that the more complex patterns allow you to concentrate more on keeping an even tempo? Or maybe because you're not thinking as much about tempo and more about the patterns that it comes more naturally?

thanks very much Dog! Yeah, I think I`m a better Jazz drummer, really. and even a better Funk drummer than Rock. but I hope it was still enjoyable, this Classic Rock tune.
With Jazz it`s a pretty strange thing: I feel it. Also Rock etc. but not as intesivly as Jazz. When being on stage with Jazz I forget all those technical things and just DO IT.

But it is not JUST Jazz...I also love Funk and even Rock...but I think NOTHING will beat Jazz.
Enough said, now you all are the very next...

Karl

tamadrummer132

11-10-2006, 12:44 AM

im mainly a rock/funk drummer-the rock drumming was a little too basic for me, but the jazz.... i cant swing for nothin and u did a great job!

Drummer Karl

11-10-2006, 06:40 PM

In ca. 2 hours I`ll just go to a little Jazz session to a near town.
I`ll go with a good drummer friend of mine who actually studies on university but for that gig he comes home again. After the gig (after 1 hour) everybody can go on stage and test, play...just jam...

...So, I hope I get the chance to jam with some other musicians.

Karl

Disco Stu

11-12-2006, 12:15 AM

Drummer Karl

11-12-2006, 12:53 PM

Well, what can I say that hasn't already been said? Really good playing...very professional sounding. Nice brush work. I've never been a very strong jazz player, but I can hear that you do it well. I agree with what someone said before, you sound better on the jazz tracks than on the rock track. I guess that's because jazz is where your heart is?

thanks very much Stu!!! =)
Yeah, my heart is really with Jazz. I also like to play Rock (as I said before) but damn, Jazz is in the center of my heart, hands. Yes, I love it.
I could also notice that when I was at the Jazz club (here is the report: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20298 ). I felt the music, through the whole context...also Stefan (drummer, friend) said something to me after me playing a few tunes with the band: "YOU WERE BURNING MAN!"
just love it...

PS: More advice or comments are very appreciated! =)

Karl

Drummer Karl

11-14-2006, 11:27 PM

:)Prog
haha i guess im just not a jazzy sorta guy, i like jazz, just into harder stuff. well dont but, wish i could get in the studio.

well...that is your point of view and I truly RESPECT that. I think some drummers just don`t like my style etc. it is not their choice, of course...and I respect that. It is not bad to say that you didn`t liked it...your opinion, it is cool.

So, what do you think, more thoughts?? :-)

Karl

Drummer Karl

11-19-2006, 09:05 PM

Any more comments?...please! =)

I`m very open for your advice and your opinion!

..oh, and I just replaced the Classic Rock tune with another Jazz song of mine...called "Pesos".

So, what do you think?

Karl

timebandit

11-19-2006, 10:38 PM

Karl, I did'nt read every post , so I'm sure you've heard this already. Those tunes were well done in every aspect. You have a great feel for jazz. Your "sweeping" is well done.I would love to hear you play that Basix kit. so keep up the good work. Keep it comin'. }:-)

DogBreath

11-21-2006, 06:53 AM

..oh, and I just replaced the Classic Rock tune with another Jazz song of mine...called "Pesos".

So, what do you think?

Fantastic! Pesos kicks serious butt. You have some great chops my friend.

d.c.drummer

11-21-2006, 02:57 PM

Sounds great, i cant get over how great your drums sound.

One tid-bit to add....
try doing soe 5, 7, and 9 stroke rolls when transitioning sections. Some people overuse it but i think it would add some more fluidity to your already great playing.

Congratulations on being one of the best young drummers around here!

Womble

11-21-2006, 08:28 PM

Hello Karl,

I shan't bother repeating all the positive comments others have made and I agree with. Suffice to say, you're very good and a million miles ahead of where I was at your age. The one suggestion I have is that you could aim for more consistency in your ride pattern: for the most part it is extremely closed, i.e. dotted 8'ths and 16th, but sometimes it wanders into a more open, triplet feel, within the space of a few bars. Great jazz drummers are identifiable by how they swing on the ride - I think you need to decide what your ride feel is and stick to it! Apart from that, great playing, and lovely drum sound.

Drummer Karl

11-21-2006, 09:41 PM

Well yeah...so much nice advice and ideas. Damn yeah!! :-) thanks so much for everything.
and also what I can say: I`ll record some of the songs new on the next weekend. I think in the last (two) weeks I made so much progress, because of your advice, because I practiced, because of the hard critic of my drum teacher. I`m happy that you guys and also my drum teacher praise me into sky. You also give critizm and this makes me motivated. It`s so nice to see how many ideas I could execute in just one or two weeks, I tried to get more sounds from my cymbal, snare work improved also...I`ll record new so yeah, you`ll see, I`ll kep you updated!

thanks guys. keep up commenting! =)

Karl

Wegadrummer

11-22-2006, 01:14 PM

Hey Karl! great stuff! You really get that layback sound I like with jazz.. The tone control on the ride pattern is amazing stuff karl..
And about the brush song natural business, great brushwork! Such a super swing feel with the brushes... You are one of a kind.

Robin

11-23-2006, 06:54 PM

As always, awesome, Karl!

groove meister

11-26-2006, 01:04 PM

hey karl, loving all the new tracks - ive recently started on jazz after 8 years of drumming, had my first "jazz gig" last week too! Im wondering, the tracks that youre playing the drums over, where are these from? how can i get similar backing tracks to practice?
Thanx man, keep it up :D!

Drummer Karl

12-13-2006, 12:34 AM

Just recorded a "Relaxin` at night" again...I think the sound is now a bit better...but what do you think, please tell me! :-)

here is again the link: www.purevolume.com/karldegenhardt

Karl

Sirwill

12-15-2006, 12:55 AM

Don't be afraid to pop the toms and snare more often. Nice grove.

"Rhythm In The Hands Of Few" Sirwill

tomgrosset

12-16-2006, 11:36 PM

Karl, your playing is remarkable and well implemented with each recording.

Bright Swing Times was exceptionally good. Your fills are satisfying and really complement the music.

Relaxin' At Night was brilliant and you have a good ear for this song. It fit the music really well.

Looking forward to hearing some more tunes.

-Tom

HardcoreLogo

12-17-2006, 09:37 PM

Great stuff Karl! Relaxin' has some very mature playing, and the ride sounds sweet! Keep it up!

Drummer Karl

12-18-2006, 12:30 AM

Thanks everybody!!

Especially thanks for the compliment on "Relxin' at night". I recorded it recently and I think you can notice differences in my style between "Bright Swing Times" and "relaxin at night".

In these few weeks I think I learned so damn much through new books, the internet, my teacher, and through you! Great to see my own progress...and I think it`s much progress I made in a few weeks! I try to use all the tips...it`s fun and hard. Great. :-)

BUT NOW SOME GREAT NEWS:
Soon I`ll have a second PC in my studio and so then I can record anything on any time!! Till now I need Daniel who makes all the mixing work on his laptop...but soon I can do it by myself ANY TIME! :-)
So I`ll record more and more...for practice, routine, and most important: just to feel the music and have fun guys.

good night...see you! =)

Karl

obasi

12-20-2006, 07:52 AM

Great work my friend!
I like your feel

Obasi

75sling

12-21-2006, 02:41 AM

Karl,

When is the CD coming out?? I want it!!
75sling

Drummer Karl

12-22-2006, 09:43 PM

lol...thanks alot for that!! :-)
Well, I would make a CD IF it was my band I am playing with.
I`ll get an own second PC soon so I can record anytime as I said...I`ll record tunes also from "Turn it up & lay it down". The Jazz play-alongs are awesome...thanks alot Bernhard!!

So, I`ll replace also old tunes like "Bright Swing Times with new tunes from that CD. My skills on "Bright Swing Times" aren`t as good as they are now....just made a great progress in the last weeks.

so, again: thanks alot for all the nice comments!

Karl

Drummer Karl

01-01-2007, 04:58 AM

Hey friends!

Just sat in my studio the whole day today...Wanted to get more knowledge with Cubase. haha, from the 8 hours of sitting in my studio, I sat more than the half of the time in front of my PC.
Tried many things in Cubase...and i love this programme!!!

However, just decided to record the first song of the "Turn it up & lay it down" CD. The song is called "Let`s play one" and it is a very calm and slow jazz ballad. Hope you like it...

also here are a few pics of my new PC in my room...here we go =)

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h84/Drummer_Karl/Bild036.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h84/Drummer_Karl/Bild038.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h84/Drummer_Karl/Bild041-1.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h84/Drummer_Karl/Bild035.jpg

and here is the new tune:

kacperivo

01-01-2007, 02:32 PM

damn, that's nice ! it has all that is needed in such a tune. so gentle and groovy. just perfect man. and besides... what i'd give to have such a studio at my home. or at least my drums :).
you inspired me to practice some more stuff with brushes, ya know?

Drummer Karl

01-12-2007, 08:21 PM

thanks mate...and hey, you really can be proud of your stuff, your Gretsch drums and B. cymbals are amazing, so traditional soundingand modern at one...and you are a great funky cat!

anyway thanks alot for your response, I`ll do more when my hand is healed.

Karl

gusty

01-13-2007, 03:32 AM