1500 strokes ?!?!

[makisaki]

i used google to search with words

Mike Mangini 1500 strokes

without the ""

The 6th link from up ended up here, reading

Anybody around the UK as fast as Mike Mangini , Johnny Rabb and Art Verdi ? ... just insane and was just broken recently of over 1500 stokes , but the world ...

BUT THE TOPIC DIDNT EXIST ANYMORE

so im interested about this

"... just insane and was just broken recently of over 1500 stokes , but the world ..."

line, and how does it start and end ;D

who did that?

[Raymond Bloom]

I don't think that it had happened. 1500 singles in a minute is humalny impossible, 1500 was probably a spelling error

[makisaki]

i think so too, but try to google using those words and it leads you to this forum

im just looking for the rest of the phrase :D

[mattsmith]

This regarded a discussion of 2003 WFD champ Eric Okamoto playing double strokes. Somebody then said something about Mangini. Then several people said no way. Then some guys who didn't know the difference between singles and doubles started arguing, and Okamoto suddenly turned into Mangini because they heard he was the champ of something. I remember when that discussion started making the rounds, and that's how it happened.

As we all know, there are alot of Internet posters out there who just say anything, while others wait for another post to show up, when that group could have just as easily thought things out for themselves.

Some of the WFD crowd is the same. But the guys who screw it up like this are usually people who have only gleaned peripheral information. After all, it's not central to a lot of people's lives to know speed drumming records.

There once were some people insisting I was seven year old Cole Marcus. And when I almost took Mangini's traditional grip record at the last WFD, there were of course all these people who corrected those posters with No,no Mangini is 1247, not knowing the difference between his match grip and trad grip records.

Anyway that's what happened here, and it was all pretty innocent.

BTW, the current UK WFD by a wide margin is Rees Bridges, who just recently scored a 1028 in competition, and is ranked 21st by WFD. If this 1028 is approved, he will move up to 14th. He's really good at this.

[DrummerBen1]

This regarded a discussion of 2003 WFD champ Eric Okamoto playing double strokes. Somebody then said something about Mangini. Then several people said no way. Then some guys who didn't know the difference between singles and doubles started arguing, and Okamoto suddenly turned into Mangini because they heard he was the champ of something. I remember when that discussion started making the rounds, and that's how it happened.

As we all know, there are alot of Internet posters out there who just say anything, while others wait for another post to show up, when that group could have just as easily thought things out for themselves.

Some of the WFD crowd is the same. But the guys who screw it up like this are usually people who have only gleaned peripheral information. After all, it's not central to a lot of people's lives to know speed drumming records.

There once were some people insisting I was seven year old Cole Marcus. And when I almost took Mangini's traditional grip record at the last WFD, there were of course all these people who corrected those posters with No,no Mangini is 1247, not knowing the difference between his match grip and trad grip records.

Anyway that's what happened here, and it was all pretty innocent.

BTW, the current UK WFD by a wide margin is Rees Bridges, who just recently scored a 1028 in competition, and is ranked 21st by WFD. If this 1028 is approved, he will move up to 14th. He's really good at this.

hey matt,

how many people in the WFD are currently in the 1000 range?

I couldnt find the new results on the wfd site because its so slow lol

[Jeff Almeyda]

There are currently 20 ranked competitors in the 1000 range, 4 with 1100 or above, and Mangini's singular 1200 plus.

Well, with all the guys online who claim they crack 1000 regularly, it's great to hear some truth on the matter. From some people's posts, you would think that everyone and his brother can crack 1000.

My 864 doesn't seem so slow now. If there were a thousand guys who did 1000 strokes then it would be a different story. I don't feel so bad anymore about being a "slowpoke".

[mattsmith]

Well, with all the guys online who claim they crack 1000 regularly, it's great to hear some truth on the matter. From some people's posts, you would think that everyone and his brother can crack 1000.

My 864 doesn't seem so slow now. If there were a thousand guys who did 1000 strokes then it would be a different story. I don't feel so bad anymore about being a "slowpoke".
The only people who lie more than politicians are speed drummers. You see these blog sites everywhere with some guy sayin' Yeah, I bought a Drumometer an hour ago and got 6000 blah, blah, or I set my metronome to 590 and beat all of Mangini's hand records with two sticks placed between the toes of one foot,or my very favorite I do 32 notes at 270 for a minute or more in my sleep, but speed doesn't matter. But still I wanted you to know that in my imagination I was better than you.

I have often shared the story of a famous drum forum having a survey about speed drumming, where 33% of respondents claimed they were 1000 bpm single stroke guys. It reminded me of talk staged behind the maintenence shed at middle schools by 12 year old boys, who smoke cigarettes while they lie about getting to 3rd base with high school homecoming queens they never met.

Whatever you want to say about this subject pro or con, the fact remains that out of the thousands who have competed in WFD events only 25 people have hand scores of 1000 or more...and...out of all the double bass enthusiasts who claim one thing or another about this guy or that guy, only 2 have conclusively proven they have scored singles above 1000 with proper equipment that didn't allow sensors to double trigger, which is yet another can of worms.

[makisaki]

In finland there is TOUR in festivals and in music happenings and they are currently looking for the Snare and Doublepedals champions.

I was standing next to this guy when he did 1052 with the snare.
so i guess he is up to the finals then...

[mattsmith]

In finland there is TOUR in festivals and in music happenings and they are currently looking for the Snare and Doublepedals champions.

I was standing next to this guy when he did 1052 with the snare.
so i guess he is up to the finals then...
Not if he used a snare and a Drumometer. That snare will double trigger a Drumometer into next year. If he used a snare and a metronome I would be incredulous of that as well, since a final total could only be a close guess at best. If he got the 1052 in an exhibition of some kind using all tested WFD equipment, then yeah that's a very strong score and she contact Ed Freitas at WFD UK.

[balboa]

hey, i can do 256....but it sounds very good!!! does that count???

[Ironcobra]

with these counting record things, how do they hit them? are you aloud to do a roll?
i got about 400, and about 800 on a roll, so i dont know which one counts?

[trommel]

What difference does it make? Without control, taste, knowledge, feel, and knowledge of and proper use of other nuances, it doesn't matter. Fast and sloppy, or speed for speed's sake is bad for business. Play clean and properly.

[DrumEatDrum]

What difference does it make? Without control, taste, knowledge, feel, and knowledge of and proper use of other nuances, it doesn't matter. Fast and sloppy, or speed for speed's sake is bad for business. Play clean and properly.

You realize you just responded to a 4 year old thread?

[toddbishop]

Good point, though...

[mattsmith]

Good point, though...
No it's not. It's an extremely assumptive point based on common stereotypes passed around mostly by computer gladiators trying to acheive e points. It implies that everyone ever involved doesn't get the secret understanding, and that's just ignorant. Trommel says he was a US military drummer for 6 years so one will assume he can play. With that said I will then assume this is a misunderstanding and that maybe he's not up to speed about the old contest that causes these contentious debates. Still what's bad for business is to pass off mythology for the sake of it. Besides if this makes no difference, then why go to the trouble to dig up a four year thread and use it as the backdrop for your second forum post? To me that's the good point.

[toddbishop]

You make some good points.