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matt_rockett_16
08-21-2006, 05:57 AM
whats the biggest size drum stick you can get and who makes the best ones

KCDrummer
08-21-2006, 06:10 AM
Marching sticks--Vic Firth "Ralph Hardimon" or "Tom Aungst" models. Have fun breaking heads and getting tendonitis.

Drum-Head
08-21-2006, 10:34 AM
I actually wonder how those Drum Corps guys play with such big sticks without injuring themselves....

T.Underhill
08-21-2006, 10:39 AM
With the rebound coming from the tight snare head and the heavy sticks, my wrists bothered me.

Les Ismore
08-21-2006, 12:06 PM
Pro-mark..............

Superlow
08-21-2006, 08:04 PM
The biggest drumsticks I have seen for a normal drum kit are the Vater Knight Sticks. I think your could seriously stop an intruder and bludgeon them to death with these sticks. I knew a lot of drummers growing up who played with the 3S, backwards of course. They would brag about how much drum gear they broke. Their drums all sounded terrible and they were in a constant state of disrepair. I would recommed taking some lessons and learn how to naturally get loud sound out of drums instead using marching band sticks.

Drummer Karl
08-22-2006, 12:37 AM
Marching sticks--Vic Firth "Ralph Hardimon" or "Tom Aungst" models. Have fun breaking heads and getting tendonitis.

agree with this. those sticks are biiiig. but I can`t recommend them for normal drumset playing...would be expencive then :-D

Karl

ledzeppelins666
08-22-2006, 01:00 AM
The New Vic Firth Corpsmaster Tree Trunks! With a diameter of 10.565 inches, makes it the perfect stick for those BIG rimshots!


Only $65 dollars at music stores nationwide!


Made for drums at least 50" in diameter. No refunds!

somedrummer
08-22-2006, 08:54 AM
The New Vic Firth Corpsmaster Tree Trunks! With a diameter of 10.565 inches, makes it the perfect stick for those BIG rimshots!


Only $65 dollars at music stores nationwide!


Made for drums at least 50" in diameter. No refunds!

Haha, very nice.

Really, big sticks arent necessary. Use moeller technique (or else, don't just flail your arms around) and you will get plenty of sound out of the drums.

photon
08-23-2006, 07:19 PM
I keep switching back and forth. Right now I'm suing the Vic Firth Thomas Lang signature stick. The circumference is comparable to a 2B. I can't imagine using anything bigger. This is a big stick for a little guy like me but I just love the rebound and tone I get out of my toms with the heavier stick.

KCDrummer
08-23-2006, 07:38 PM
I actually wonder how those Drum Corps guys play with such big sticks without injuring themselves....

They do injure themselves. Tendonitis, carpel tunnel and premature arthritis all over the place.

Drum-Head
08-23-2006, 07:51 PM
Right now I'm suing the Vic Firth Thomas Lang signature stick.

Those sticks are 0.650 inches of bad odor (no joke!) !! I nightmare if you ask me. lol.

photon
08-24-2006, 01:44 AM
Thomas Lang seems to be able to make them work...........

Drum-Head
08-24-2006, 02:10 AM
That goes without saying. I don't get how he manages to keep them in hand though, the finish on those sticks make them very slippery when you sweat...

KLittle123
08-24-2006, 03:47 AM
I actually wonder how those Drum Corps guys play with such big sticks without injuring themselves....
They're drumheads are about 10 times more tighter than your snare drum on your drumset. You should really try playing on those, there's an amazing amount of rebound on those drums.
But to answer your question I'd say Metal sicks by Vic Firth, the red tipped ones that look like matches. If your trying to find the biggest and baddest stick just because it is the "biggest," please don't...thats dumb.

I think the carpal tunnel and stuff is more from there grip, not from the sticks and heads. They grip those things tighter than crap, our marching drumline does..we've gotten tight hands written all over the place.

sumwatt
08-29-2006, 12:35 PM
I use those Vader Nightsticks for practice. I thought my drum teacher would laugh when I started going to him but he didn't and pulled out a pair almost as big. I wanted something heavier to work with at the beginning to get used to the weight. I will also switch out to another pair of Vader 5a's after warming up a little bit.

2d-chris
08-29-2006, 03:32 PM
to slightly change the subject i wonder what the worlds smallest drum sticks are ;)

Pete Stoltman
08-29-2006, 04:04 PM
[QUOTE=2d-chris]to slightly change the subject i wonder what the worlds smallest drum sticks are

While not officialy drum sticks, I used a pair of chopsticks (the eating utensil) for a particular situation. It worked for what I had to do but not much sound quality out of the drums. Interesting on cymbals though.

T.Underhill
08-29-2006, 04:25 PM
Anyone play the Pro Mark Tommy Aldridge model?? Holy cow those are big.

ZDrums24
08-30-2006, 03:03 AM
I actually wonder how those Drum Corps guys play with such big sticks without injuring themselves....

being one of those marching guys, ill let you know.
a comfortable, relaxed grip and keeping all stick heights low unless otherwise needed, and very strong muscles everywhere in the forearm and hand, which took me a year or so to build.
the drums help too, because theyre tuned so tight, the weight of the stick helps play through them and the rebound is more than enough so you dont need to pull the stick up at all.
plus theres a lot of detail (sometimes) into drum heights and angles to reduce any kind of injury someone might pick up.

and hardimons are the biggest playable stick by vic firth .710" dia, i have a pair right next to me, now that i think about it...

EternalArcadia
04-15-2007, 06:15 PM
i play with vic firth's ralph hardison's sticks that are just about 1 millimeter away from being 3/4 of an inch. I use them for drumset play and ive never actually being in marching band. i love them.

how long before I start gettting wrist problems though.... lol

da cheese walks
04-15-2007, 06:24 PM
I dunno why anyone hasnt yet asked the question: WHY do you want the biggest sticks you can buy?!??

ZDrums24
04-15-2007, 06:59 PM
Every one has their preferences. Bobby Rock states in his The Zen of Drumming dvd that he feels it is easier to play soft with big sticks than it is to play loud with small sticks. I am a believer in this concept. I use the VF Ted Atkatz signiture stick (.660" 17") for orchestral percussion. I am currently bouncing around between the hardimon (.710" 17"), johnson (.705" 17"), and mcnutt (.690" 17") sticks for marching. For some reason, larger sticks are actually easier to use delicately. I guess it sort of relates to how some kindergarten class rooms use extra thick pencils. Larger sticks also have a bigger, fuller sound, plus the weight of a larger stick translates into less work for your muscles, usually.

I find this concept is a not always true in kit playing because drum heads on kit are often tuned significantly looser than orchestral and marching drums, (less rebound) plus there is a lot more movement involved (being surrounded by a large multi-percussion set up instead of having one layed out in front of you). The drums in orchestral/marching percussion are typically more level as well, allowing for a more up and down motion (which is more efficient) plus one stands in those activities, giving your arms a little more help from your core.

oh, and the hardimons arent the largest. the VF ms3 is bigger (.715") and i think vater has one even bigger.

Ozzy Biz
04-16-2007, 02:55 AM
These (http://promark-stix.com/products/view.cfm?product_id=c0347985-ba8b-46d1-841f-a5f318db0888)are the biggest sticks; they live in the 'specialty' section over at Pro-Mark

BertTheDrummer
04-16-2007, 03:04 AM
I think the Vater 3S would qualify at L 17 1/4" D .730" Teardrop Tip
as well as the Regal Tip Quantum 7000 at L 16" D .750" Round Tip

Tutin
04-16-2007, 03:06 AM
I've played a pair of Cozy Powells sticks, he gave them to my teacher (Ted Mckenna). They were really quite heavy, but played very nicely.

PureRockFury
04-16-2007, 04:14 AM
I actually wonder how those Drum Corps guys play with such big sticks without injuring themselves....

Easy...it's because we take hours to warm ourselves up, we play all the time, we build our chops to the point it's second nature. You don't even think about how thick or thin the sticks are.

kmbop40
04-16-2007, 04:16 AM
I actually wonder how those Drum Corps guys play with such big sticks without injuring themselves....

i am in marching band(high school) and jus use proper technique, and don't grip the stick so tight your fingers turn white, and you'll be okay, you just have to learn how to harness the rediculous rebound you get, lot's of bounces, and wrist muscle buildup helps too yay for prctice pads!!!

also you don't wanna use the ralph hardimons, on the set, it makes your cymbals sound terrible, and you will plow through heads like nothing else.....

like others have said just use good technique, and it should be enough,

I use a healthy 5bn(vic firth) though soon to switch to the steve gadd sticks.

Ozzy Biz
04-16-2007, 06:49 AM
I think the Vater 3S would qualify at L 17 1/4" D .730" Teardrop Tip
as well as the Regal Tip Quantum 7000 at L 16" D .750" Round Tip

How about Pro-Mark GNT sticks, at L = 36" and D = 1.5".

This (http://drummerworld.com/watchlistdrummers/Rocky_Neill.html)is them in action (I think)

BellsOfRhymney
04-16-2007, 09:59 AM
Biggest are ones I use ...Jeff Hamilton's. Giant tone.

BertTheDrummer
04-16-2007, 07:06 PM
Anyway talking about the smallest regular sticks would be the Promark 7A's at L= 15 3/8" D= 0.512"

Skitch
04-21-2007, 11:04 AM
How about Pro-Mark GNT sticks, at L = 36" and D = 1.5".

This (http://drummerworld.com/watchlistdrummers/Rocky_Neill.html)is them in action (I think)


I was thinking of Louisville sluggers!


Mike

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masonni
04-26-2007, 01:00 AM
Regal Tip Quantum 7000 is thicker than anything I have seen.

Skitch
05-05-2007, 08:56 AM
Pro-mark DC10 for marching. This are know as amputees; they have no tip!

Mike

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Deathmetalconga
05-05-2007, 09:14 AM
Anyway talking about the smallest regular sticks would be the Promark 7A's at L= 15 3/8" D= 0.512"

I have a pair of those and I love them. The folks at www.drumvillage.com are making me some with that same diameter, but 17 inches long instead. So, I'll have the agility of a light stick and the reach of a big stick.

d.c.drummer
05-05-2007, 02:09 PM
Playing on kevalr heads with Ralph Hardimans is onething. Playing you $300 Hi-hats with Ralph Hardimans is another. Skip over to vater's website and check stick lengths and diameters. They have a very wide selection of sticks.

Vinnysimmo
05-05-2007, 05:02 PM
Wow, this is educational. I always thourgt 2b were the biggest sticks.

GRUNTERSDAD
05-05-2007, 05:23 PM
Anyway talking about the smallest regular sticks would be the Promark 7A's at L= 15 3/8" D= 0.512"

Pro-Mark has some student models that are 13 inches long.