Stonerrock: the right heads

[Johnny from the block]

Hi all, I've got a gretsch Blackhawk and Sabian B8 (not the pro)- hi-hat, 20"ride and 16" crash. But my main question is: Do you have any advice on wich heads i should use, regarding the following things:
I Love stonerrock (like queens, kyuss, ...) and I love the sound of the drums, especially the snare. i really want to try and recreate the same sound on my gretsch, i know it's not a pro-kit, but i suppose that with some good heads and tuning, that will do at least something to it...
There's just one other thing too though. Even, though I love the sound of the stonerrock, I also want to be able to play some metal or old rock once in a while.
Actually i'm looking for heads that sound 'stoner' but at the same time leave some space open to play other genres.
Any advice? TopCat already gave me some good advice, saying to go for a Remo coated ambassador or Evans Coated G1 for the snare, but i'm open for other advice and would like to hear as much opinions as possible, so go ahead. Thanks

Cheers,
Johnny from the block

[Johnny from the block]

What an active forum :p ...

[Superlow]

Patience is a virtue my friend. As far as the right heads for "stone rock" you are talking about. That fat compressed warm sound. You may want to try a head that has some internal dampening to it. I good place to start would be the Aqarian Studio X's or Evans EC2's they give a nice fat sound. With the right tuning you could even get the Evans coated G2's to sound like that.

[Johnny from the block]

thx for the comment ;)
as for the tom toms I checked out a cool vid from aquarion and i really loved the texture coated with satin finish, even more then the studio X.
So I'm pretty sure of that for the toms.
For the snare i'm open for everything. I might just want to consider the studio X for that, or the evans EC2's, although I have no clue what the evans sound like.
The G2 may be an option too, but tuning is not one of my qualities (yet, i hope).
I do have some sites where they give instructions for perfect tuning, but i suppose personal taste always has some effect to that.
I know very little aboutsnare-tuning for i'm only a beginner, you think it may be possible for me to get the most out of it?
also: I could let it be tuned my my drumteacher or some friends who have more expercience, but it's probably better to do it myself, as i want to learn it, isn't it?
I just hope i will make the best out of the heads, for else: it would be sort of a shame.
tnx superflow and advice remains welcome ;)

Johnny

[val]

Beeing a huge fan of stoner rock myself, i'll suggest you to try aquarian performance II....if you have "big" drums ( ive a mapex saturn pro : 13*9, 16*16, 18*16, 24*18 kick) it sounds really deep and fat (the end of Song for the dead for example sounds soooo nice with those heads!). But on smaller drums you'll find them really dead sounding so you should go with studioX coated maybe....

For the snare i like something deep and DRY, so i m using an evans genera dry on my black panther 14*6.5 walnut but for a more "QOTSA" or "Kyuss" sound, a deep maple snare would be better i think.


Hope it helps you.

[Johnny from the block]

thanks! yeah it helped
nice to know i'm not the only stonerrock fan on the forum :)
i aprreciate your advice, but i'm not going to buy a deeper snare drum though.
Off course i'm sure you're right about that, but i just figured the next thing to buy are new heads ('cause they're really old and crappy sounding) and after that some new pro cymbals ('cause i'm not satisfied with the B8's).
I know it's what you're saying about the deep maple snare but anyway...

By the way i love the sizes of your drum !
do you by any chance have some pics?
I think it wille be the studio X coated then:)
thanx for the advice, i'm going to town today and i'll let you know how it worked out:)

[Johnny from the block]

By the way: I just saw you live in Belgium too ;)
Where 're you from? I mean: Vlaanderen or Wallonie? and wich town.
I live close to Leuven myself (just keeping this in english so other people can read it too else they wouldn't be known-ing what i'm saying and...)
anyway thx for the advice

[val]

We should create a belgian club on drummerworlds :)
I'm from Lessines ( near Ath ) but I m studying in Liege


Btw here are some pics of my kit : http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10192


And yes I think coated StudioX's can't be wrong! :)

[Johnny from the block]

dude, that's a hell of a nice kit , like i told you, i love the sizes;)
suppose they're ideal for stoner...

anyway, i went to town yesterday and i bought the remo coated ambassador for the snare and aquarian texture coated with satin finish for the toms, i'm going to put them on in a minute, i'll let you know how it worked out ;)

cheers

[Johnny from the block]

The Aquarians sound great!
I can't get the most out of the remo coated ambassador though...
any advice on snare-tuning for beginners:p (no link to a website with 387 pages about tuning 'cause I won't be able to do as they say in their steps, if I'm even able to figure out what they mean by some words...

[Danny-T]

The Aquarians sound great!
I can't get the most out of the remo coated ambassador though...
any advice on snare-tuning for beginners:p (no link to a website with 387 pages about tuning 'cause I won't be able to do as they say in their steps, if I'm even able to figure out what they mean by some words...

Hi I think if you like stonerrock your flor isnt big enough if i were you i would buy a bigger sice 18" they (stoner)ROCK i have one myself, and i like the sound of it a looot so here's a hint go to your drum store and buy a new flor bye and good luck

[Johnny from the block]

Hi I think if you like stonerrock your flor isnt big enough if i were you i would buy a bigger sice 18" they (stoner)ROCK i have one myself, and i like the sound of it a looot so here's a hint go to your drum store and buy a new flor bye and good luck

thanks, I was thinking about that too, but I'm more likely to get a whole new kit at once. tell me what you think:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21868&highlight=%28semi-%29Pro+Level+Drumkit

[Danny-T]

what about the new (I will say it in Irisch so nowbody else can read this perfect information) als ge nu is gwn uwe drum zou pakke da ge al eeuwen opt oog hebt en uwen oude eindelijk is aan de kant zou schuiven zou da geen prachtig goed idee zijn ik d8 het wel :p ok dees was effe een moppke he pol k zal maar terug gwn doen s wel loos ma bon

so try this classified info and you will become a pro i no time!!!

[Johnny from the block]

haha, I hope the admins don't bother for your "Irish" ;)
you've got a point there, but the problem is,... that new kit costs big time!
I don't have over 1100 euro to spent on a 4 pcs kit, without a snare and hardware...
Not even if I sell my old blackhawk

But I got some interesting advice the other day from parser, saying the 24" kickdrum has some advantages like: heads are cheaper / sound is big and not dead at the same time / and easier to take to a gig.
But I definently want to play a 28" once! just not goiong to buy it because of the disadvantages described above (although I find Dave's kick on a song for the dead not deadsounding at all! It might just be he has a Little bit more expercience on tuning^^

so 24" alors;)