Traditional grip speed

[NotoriousDRUM]

I play both matched and traditional. I am faster with matched but I feel more comfortable with traditional. What is the equivalent of using your fingers to get speed in french grip, in traditional grip?And, what are some good ways to develop traditional grip speed?

[jazzsnob]

Practice the independance of your ring and pinky fingers. Do this by setting a metronome at 80, and do long press rolls(one every two beats) and on every roll, pull your ring and pinky far away from the hand. Try and make the rolls as long as possible. As far as french grip, there isn't an exact equivalent to tradition, besides using mainly fingers. Other than that, just use the same excercises you used to get your matched up to speed.

[Toby_Jackson]

The closest equivalent would be using either your index or index + middle finger to dribble the stick. Very difficult to explain over the net, but you can catch some good examples in Art Verdi's practice videos, Dom Famularo's cyberlessons, and Steve Smith or Dave Weckl's dvds (among other places). Best advice obviously would be to get a good teacher to show you the rights and wrongs of the technique, but if you dig around in the places I've mentioned, you can get a good idea of what I'm talking about.

[kzdruma]

Do the exersizes in "stick Control for the modern drummer" all with traditional and you will be amazed!

[Tex12]

Dave Weckl shows out to develop finger control the best in his video Back to basics
Dave has another video called How to develop technique also

[vadrum]

the traditional grip equivalent to the french grip finger exercises would be to
1. hold the stick in traditional grip
2. turn your palm down towards the drum/pad (now your hand is facing down and not towards your body)
3. start the stick in motion and dribble the stick using the first 2 fingers.

i have seen drummers use this within the music when playing fast repeated 1/8's for a measure or 2 (inside trading or solos) ala philly joe jones.

try it and see how it works

[drummer625]

With traditional grip i's actually pretty easy to build speed. You have to make sure you have your grip really good though. just start playing 8 on a hand and take it faster and faster every minute or so.

[Scatman]

I find matched grip easier to develop speed than traditional

[lochday]

I find matched grip easier to develop speed than traditional

If you are a right-hander, playing matched grip seems logical. After all, the simple thing to do is to tell our left handt: " just look at the right hand and do exactly what it does!"
I personally feel more comfortable with the traditional grip in most situations, but that's what I do when I use matched grip for latin (you can't do a cross stick with traditional grip) and certain rock stuff. I get my left hand mimic the right one, and that's all. And also, I use my left hand when I brush my teeth.Haha!

[jazzsnob]

I find matched grip easier to develop speed than traditional

You probably have an incorrect grip.

[Scatman]

Why would you say I have an incorrect grip?

[The Stig]

Much easier to build speed using rebound (as per Moeller) than using finger control. My finger speed is crap which is why i rely on Moeller alot.

[jazzsnob]

If your grip is correct, you would have no trouble with gaining control and then speed. Traditional grip is hard to get right without a teacher who knows what they're doing. You probably have it wrong.

[skinny]

Those Art Verdi videos of his left fingers up close are awesome
He works up some speed