Favorite metal drummer?

[altered_beast]

Thankyou!! finally some METAL, not mall-rat metalcore/emo/mathcore/hardcore blurrrch!

So that wasn't something you posted? If you refer back to the post by Dimm_slayer that you quoted, he quotes a previous post by Kicks_Mc_Gee which lists bands such as Lamb of God, Unearth, The Black Dahlia Murder (how you can't call them metal is completely beyond me?!)...

So, I need to get my facts straight?!

and to believe that Chris Adler recorded his kick beats slower and then "got better" so he could play live... that's just pure naive man, why on earth would any musician record their part slower, have it sped up on record and then have to get better for a live performance? What would he have done had he not been able to improve enough?

[The_Chaotic_One]

So that wasn't something you posted? If you refer back to the post by Dimm_slayer that you quoted, he quotes a previous post by Kicks_Mc_Gee which lists bands such as Lamb of God, Unearth, The Black Dahlia Murder (how you can't call them metal is completely beyond me?!)...

So, I need to get my facts straight?!

and to believe that Chris Adler recorded his kick beats slower and then "got better" so he could play live... that's just pure naive man, why on earth would any musician record their part slower, have it sped up on record and then have to get better for a live performance? What would he have done had he not been able to improve enough?

In MY OPINION, I would call them metalcore, what would you call them? And the speed of his kicks thing, I was just mentioning that I had heard or read it somewhere, I never said I think it is true or that it was a fact? IMHO if he DID record them and speed it up for the CD, and then couldn't play it live without getting better at his game, I think it would either be an incentive to practice more or utterly stupid.

[PdoubleE]

Morgan Agren !!! Hands Down.. Second to none

[jkesler99]

Definitely Ted Kirkpatrick of Tourniquet. Incredibly talented musician and song-writer. Not just fast, but truly versatile.

[Deathmetalconga]

Clive Burr, original Iron Maiden drummer. Played metal with a jazz feel.

Kim Ruzz, original Mercyful Fate drummer. Precise, complex, the apex of prog metal drumming.

[poisonpage]

Tomas Haake. Flo Mournier.

[emmerson]

danny carey, thomas haake, chris adler.

[suffer the angel]

face it people it s acomes down to these five drummers
1.john bonham-bein top metal drummer even though he was rock'n'roll
2.lars ulrich-for pretty much reinventing heavy metal drums to make it what it is today
3.marco pitruzzella- just for bein so godly
4.chris adler-cuz he reinvented metal drums once again and refined them to perfection
5.and of course we cant forget aobut neil pert- he just does things that are purely insane and wouldnt of been thought of until he did it

the worst are of course
1.acdc
2.the majority of punk
3.the majority of hardcore/emo/pop punk/post hardcore drummers none of them are truly gifted drummers they proably was the only thing around that could remotely play the drums

and the thing about chris adler is no way in hell true i seen him do it on video documentary and i seen him do it live -chris adler is amazing-

[Mapex589]

I would have to say Chris Adler(Lamb Of God), Jason Bittner(Shadows Fall) and Brann Dailor(Mastodon) for today's metal drummers. The old school nods goe to Dave Lombardo(Slayer), Lars Ulrich(Metallica), Vinnie Paul(Pantera).

[Gil_drummer]

I would have to say Dave Lombardo. I do enjoy Chris Adler's and Martin Lopez's drumming a lot as well. It's too bad Martin Lopez had to leave Opeth.
Danny Carey is amazing also, but I don't know if I would classify Tool as metal.

[Drum-Head]

Hi all!


I can't speak in terms of "the best" that is too subjective for my tastes, but I think my favorite drummer in the metal section would have to be Aquiles Priester from Angra.

Aquiles has the precision, the speed, and some very interesting patterns - his way of incorportating brazilian rythms in Angra's music is fabulous. In my opinion, he really has his own voice. I can't nail this exactly, but athough he has a very machine-like way of playing, I feel he has a certain sens of groove. Obviously not like a funk drummer, but he's got something movy in his playing.

Here are a few vids for you guys to check him out if you're not familiar with his playing:

- Acid Rain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH6WXq8gJKk)
- Nova Era (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDcdVfcPDaI)
- Judgement Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGq0CmjvBLE)
- Unholy Wars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39-DSg5pvTA)
- Hunters And Prey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4J5rM--cws)

Enjoy!


Regards,
Christopher.

[meshuggah1324]

Tomas Haake

Gene Hoglan

Sean Reinert

my 3 favorite metal drummers of all time...

[hookedup]

Tomas Haake

Gene Hoglan

Sean Reinert

my 3 favorite metal drummers of all time...

Oh man, so much metal talent right there. Speaking of Death drummers, you see that video of Richard Christy and Mike Portnoy's dual drum solo?

It was pretty cool. (http://www.richardchristy.com/drum_corner.html)

[machinainfernus]

I'm going to have to say
Vinnie paul and Chris adler have been my fav's for some time now.
I'm just a sucker for the sweet footwork. I got to meet adler this weekend in Atlantic city and he is a super nice guy. A good friend of mine MikeyB is his drum tech so i got to hang out with Mike for like an hour while he set up the kit. He asked me if i wanted to play them when he was done with sound check but i wussed out!!! HA HA .
I think this is my first post since i signed up on the site...so HI EVERYBODY!!

[bones44]

JJ Phillips is pretty cool for an Ausise..!!

[MSUMetal]

Oh man, so much metal talent right there. Speaking of Death drummers, you see that video of Richard Christy and Mike Portnoy's dual drum solo?

It was pretty cool. (http://www.richardchristy.com/drum_corner.html)


Dude that'd be awesome. Pretty sweet that he doesn't even need a second kit for someone to play along with him...heh.

[tamadrummer132]

jason bittner.

fastest feet iv ever heard along with precise timing. hes awesome

[altered_beast]

I'm gonna have to add Tomas Haake and Gene Hoglan to my list of favourite metal drummers. Some of the Meshuggah stuff is just mind boggling.

[Drumms]

There is no best metal drummer. There are only favourite drummers.

Mine are:
Gene Hoglan - Strapping Young Lad and a few Death albums
Dave Lombardo - Slayer
Matt McDonough - Mudvayne (very tastefull drumming)
Raymond Herrera - Fear Factory

[resident_evo]

Well Mike Portnoy is my personal favourite,its not coz he can play pretty much EVERYTHING but he changes pattern so so many times when he is playing and they are mad complicated also and il be dammed how he remembers it all also..

As for propper metal/death drummers its a very close call between DOC (R.I.P) Formally from Vader..Darey..their current drummer (bass drum speed would insult anyone..ALMOST) Dave Lombardo Former Slayer, Raymond Harerra from Fear Factory and Pete the Feet from Morbid Angel

[machinainfernus]

Well Mike Portnoy is my personal favourite,its not coz he can play pretty much EVERYTHING but he changes pattern so so many times when he is playing and they are mad complicated also and il be dammed how he remembers it all also..

As for propper metal/death drummers its a very close call between DOC (R.I.P) Formally from Vader..Darey..their current drummer (bass drum speed would insult anyone..ALMOST) Dave Lombardo Former Slayer, Raymond Harerra from Fear Factory and Pete the Feet from Morbid Angel
In the new portnoy video he says he remember parts by writing them ALL down. then he writes down what the part reminds him of...say, meshugga or some other song or band. He said he would never remeber that stuff otherwise.

[resident_evo]

Yeah thats right..in his liquid drum theatre vid and tha track he was ref to was dance to eternaty i think..

seen that vid a few years ago and the whole SHRINK AND GROW section blew me away :)

[II xMETALx II]

Well, i think we all know who that is. Joey Jordison of chourse.

Lol. I love Joey and think hes insane, but not sure about the best drummer.

Id say Mike Portnoy, hes just incredible

[graham2493]

Yes, John Bonham was an absolute legend!!! And was one of the main contributors to Hard Rock/Heavy Metal but not so much as Rainbow's Cozy Powell & Deep Purple's Ian Paice. These were two of the first drummers to introduce a new technique called "double bass drumming" to some of their songs and thus Heavy Metal truely began it's foundations not to mention being some of the biggest inspirations to bands like Slayer & Metallica etc..

On that note I'm glad so many people have mentioned the mighty Dave Lombardo but sad to see not enough mention of the seemingly underrated Paul Bostaph who was up to the task of taking over for Mr. Lombardo and kicked ass doing it eg. Divine Intervention etc........ I'm honestly happy to say I love Lombardo & Bostaph almost on par but Lombardo's awesome work with Fantomas & Testament tip the scales towards Lombardo.

Of course Martin Lopez (Opeth) is an absolute legend and the very cool Igor Cavalera is not to be missed!

Don't ya love it!

Man! This is hard to do without the songs influencing you!

I totally agree that Bostaph was underrated in Slayer! He brought different skills to the table as well as out and out drumming skills. See how Slayer's songs were arranged better during his time with them? I think both Bostaph and Lombardo are equal in the grand scheme of things. It's nostalgia that puts Lombardo ahead with most people IMO...

Igor's been forgotten about since the end of Seputura. Another class drummer!!!

I think at the end of the day though I'd still put Lombardo and Bostaph at the top of the metal drummer tree.

[altered_beast]

Igor's been forgotten about since the end of Seputura. Another class drummer!!!



Sepultura are still going, just barely, it's looking as though Andreas Kisser will be leaving and I can't imagine they'll continue under the same name with one original member.

[TakaTakaTa]

The best????

Richard Christy
Bobby Jarzombek
Gene Hoglan
Flo Monier
and the little guys nowhere in a street who no one know

[MSUMetal]

I just think that Mudvayne's drummer is unique, with some sweet beats. He doesnt play the common stuff, it's just powerful and not predictable (atleast for me). He's one drummer that I love everything about his playing (not that he's the only). That and I basically think Mudvayne is amazing all around, their vocalist is perfect live, the bassist is sweet, and the guitarist isn't bad.

[altered_beast]

Tomas Haake is THE man for unpredictable. I will check out more Mudvayne tho.

[II xMETALx II]

I just think that Mudvayne's drummer is unique, with some sweet beats. He doesnt play the common stuff, it's just powerful and not predictable (atleast for me). He's one drummer that I love everything about his playing (not that he's the only). That and I basically think Mudvayne is amazing all around, their vocalist is perfect live, the bassist is sweet, and the guitarist isn't bad.

Fair Enough.
Mudvayne played at the Big Day Out here not long ago but unfortunately i didnt get to see them.

[Dimm_Slayer]

Again i post my list with some updates:

Inferno (Behemoth)
Charlie Benante(Anthrax)
Jim Austin(Into Eternity)
Nicko McBrain(Iron Maiden OF COURSE)
Bobby Jarzombek(Demons & Wizards)
Mikkey Dee(Motörhead)
Horgh(Immortal)
Richard Christy(Iced Earth/Death)
The guy from Susperia(Sorry I dont know his name)

[mlayton31]

Travis Smith - TRIVIUM

[ness]

igor-sepultura
chris adler-lamb of god
charlie benante-anthrax
jason bitner-shadows fall
travis smith-trivium
dave lombardo-slayer
the guy from arch enemy(i don't know his name)

[altered_beast]

igor-sepultura
chris adler-lamb of god
charlie benante-anthrax
jason bitner-shadows fall
travis smith-trivium
dave lombardo-slayer
the guy from arch enemy(i don't know his name)

I agree Igor is good but when will we ever hear him again now he's left Seps?

I can't remember which one it is in Arch Enemy, I think it's Adrian Erlandsson, if not then Eric Erlandsson - they're brothers and one is in Cradle of Filth, the other Arch Enemy.

[bonzolead]

Lars Ulrich.... 3...2...1... hahahaha just kidding!

I like:
Vinnie Paul,
Tomas Haake,
Joey Jordinson
Charlie Benante
Dave Lombardo
Deen Castronovo
Danney Carey
Chris Adler
And a few others.
That's a killer list.

Keep Swatting,
Bonzolead

[Drum-Head]

I can't remember which one it is in Arch Enemy, I think it's Adrian Erlandsson, if not then Eric Erlandsson - they're brothers and one is in Cradle of Filth, the other Arch Enemy.

You got the names wrong; it's Adrian and Daniel Erlandsson. The second is the drummer for Arch Enemy.

[Peter W.]

Well, at age 43 I must admit that I'm a bit old to join this poll... But have you younger drummers out there ever heard Rob Reiner from Anvil? He's one of the early metal-drummers, and especially on the album "Metal On Metal" there're some serious great metal drumming: listen to the tunes: "tease med, please me", "mothra", "march of the crebs", "jackhammer", "666", and tell me if that is some serious drumming or what? The album before that (their first) was not as interesting, and the album after was not as good either. What happend from then on, I don't no. But listen to "Metal On Metal"... That is some serious "ancient" heavy metal drumming!!!

[altered_beast]

You got the names wrong; it's Adrian and Daniel Erlandsson. The second is the drummer for Arch Enemy.
To be honest I'm not surprised I got the names wrong, I'm not really into either band, I just read about them in Rhythm magazine lately...

[killer_deep]

I think Martin Lopez of Opeth doesn't get nearly enough recognition for his drumming. Maybe its not extremely flashy and close to impossible, but he's a great musician and Opeth's music is amazing for it. Too bad he left the band...

S

[cwignall]

nalevolent creation drummer is insane. check that guy out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I_1jFEabJ8

awesome double kick

[kasper92]

id have to say joey jordison, i know alot of people think hes just big cause hes i a 'gimmik' band but when you think about it hes extremly fast, has great fills and is very very innovative and whatevr drumming he does it always fits the song

[davi]

i vote chad kent of atomship as my first pick.check him out at atomship.com

[rendezvous_drummer]

Chad Kent isn't really metal though is he. More rock, but Pencilfight is a freakin awesome song.

[nhzoso]

Easy....Vinnie Appice

[Doom]

I really like the drummers in Darkane and Gojira. They are both fast as necessary, its the musicial choices they make that get me.
Also just for the record I personally think that the older players like Vinnie Paul and John Tempesta have a much better effect on their bands than newer guys however fast or technical they may be. Also these guys can play double bass with a kind of perfection I've not heard Roddy or Mournier etc attain.

[Ramsh]

One of my favourite is Muhammed Suicmez, he's the lead guitarist in Necrophagist. He programmed the Onset Of Putrefaction drums and he wrote about 90% of the Epitaph drums.
His creativity is really incredible because the stuff he writes is playable on drums, if he could play drums he would play his parts.

[DrumMasterDave]

In my opinion, The absolute best metal drummer is the one from DRAGONFORCE. He isnt as heavy as some others, but he is very fast and technical. He plays over an hour straight live and he doesnt even break a swet!

[dw D]

Ingo Shwentonberg of Helloween, He was sick for that era. That is before he jumped in front of a subway and killed himself. There are so many. Hellhammer is a maniac too. Derek Roddy, Flo, Daniel and Adrian Erlandsson, Mickey Dee, Nick Barker,
There are millions out there!!

[toxegendrummer]

ive lately fallen in love with Gene Hoglan and Dave Mcclain of Machine Head because ive fallen in luv with the Blackening

[tooldrums1000]

It all deponds on the persons perspective on "the best". I think Derek roddy. Because hes name is derek and so is mine so you gotta give him respect.

[cpearson32]

Travis Smith
Jason Bittner

[Big_Philly]

Dave Mackintosh, Mike Portnoy

[Thrash Drummer]

Trivium is amazing.. Travis Smith is amazing..
Chris Adler
Lech
Flo
Anyone who can blast at 250+ bpm
There are a bunch more but I don't know their names..just the bands they are in.
All that remains
Dimmu Borgir
COB
Opeth


DETHKLOK haha

[doublebass]

death metal:Flo mounier-derek roddy-george kollias-sean reinert
thrash metal:dave lombardo-just beacause he is the pioneer
prog metal-danny carrey-thomass haake-brann dailor-martin lopez
black metal:hellhammer-just beacause he plays as he is expected to

if you can pick "the best" out of em then you are propably driven by ignorance

[MagnZ]

These re my favourites.

Daniel Erlandsson.
Chris Adler.
Hellhammer.
Frost.
Nick Barker.
Gene Hoglan .

[caprisun3484]

Martin Lopez
Danny Carey
and
Travis Smith are my favorites but i really don't like to THAT much metal

[rowley78]

To me fast is not best but for death metal it seem so since the only fun of it is to trash so being fast gives more trash, lol. Anyway Flo Mounier is from Quebec and I'm too. Last year he was at an expo for the jazz fest in Montreal. And he came to try the new roland electro drum demo. He played fast double pedal non stop as he's good at. But anybody can play like that. You could be totally on durgs and drunk and play like that. You just have to practise and you got for it. It,s easy to get fast. But to play well with a band, being technic and have the perfect matching play is another thing and that to me is mature drummer. But we still need those speed freaks to play in those over technical detroy band. And those guys are good and tight very impressive. But personnaly I would just watch a clip, being impressed and walk away and go listen to Define The great Line over and over and forget about how fast flo mounier play because men that Aaron Gillespie knows how to play well and fit a good feal to his music with Underoath. At that same exp of roland I just sat on the bench after Flo kinda roll like he did with a single pedal instead of the double, of course I couldn't go fast as long and non stop as him, he's pro and he's the fastest, but you know people around didn't quite see a difference. There are solo drummers and and there's musician drummer. I would rather chose Aaron as best musician and drummer to me personnaly than Flo mounier who's the fastest, that's all.

David, Montreal.Qc

[Tubs player]

I think Nicko McBrain is real good, he doesn't use double bass. Dave Lombardo has my vote though

[Tutin]

Joey Jordison (I know many people will slate me for this but his playing gives me chills)

Andols Herrick (Don't you know it?!)

Derek Roddy (Yeah!)

Pete Sandoval (YEAH!!)

Gene Hoglan (OH YEAAHHH!)

Daniel Erlandersson

Raymond Hererra

George Kollias

And last but not least...


ME! Oh yah rly...

[Mr. Pasquini]

Brann Dailor (Mastodon)

Thomas Haake (Meshuggah)

Danny Carey (Tool)

Chris Adler (Lamb of God)

Martin Lopez (former Opeth)

Nicholas Barker (former Dimmu Borgir)

Dave Lombardo (Slayer)

Paul Bostaph (former Slayer)

Raymond Herrera (Fear Factory)

Bobby Jarzombek (Spastic Ink)

[drummerchick435]

Andrew Gillespie - Underoath

[Mr. Pasquini]

Andrew Gillespie - Underoath
Ouch.. I don't classify them as metal.... I'm really just a hater of their music, though.

[drummerchick435]

Ouch.. I don't classify them as metal.... I'm really just a hater of their music, though.

I really don't know much about metal so....

[tooldrums1000]

Jaska Raatikainen - Children of Bodom

[schist]

Tomas Haake (Meshuggah)
Peter Wildoer (Darkane)
Martin Lopez (Opeth)
Dan Foord (Sikth)
Sean Reinert (Cynic)
Dave Haley (Psycroptic)

[schist]

oh please
everyone knows that joey jordison is the best
but my favourits are also dave silvera and igor cavalera

Joey Jordison is easily the most overrated metal drummer of all time. :|

That said, it's cool if you like him, just don't go saying he's the "best".

[aruration]

Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
Chris Adler (Lamb Of God)
Martin Lopez (ex-Opeth)
Thomas Haake (Meshuggah)
Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
Dan Foord (Sikth)
George Kollias (Nile)
Jonas Ekdahl (Evergrey)
Daniel Erlandsson (Arch Enemy)
Adrian Erlandsson (Cradle of filth)
Matt McDonough (Mudvayne)
Vinnie Paul (ex-Pantera,ex-Damageplan, Hellyeah)
Danny Carrey (Tool)

p.s. Martin Lopez(for those who don't know) left Opeth because of a very serious and rare illness and therefore he was unable to perform well in live events

[ablethevoice]

I've always been more of a prog rock fan (ELP, Yes etc) so I didn't listen to much metal or thrash until a buddy of mine introduced me to Slayer. Dave really impressed me with his speed and power, but it wasn't till I heard his work in Grip, Inc. that Dave really really blew me away. No one else (IMHO) can touch him.

[Gilded]

Chris Adler (Lamb Of God)
Marthus/Adrian (Cradle Of Filth)
Joey Jordison (Slipknot)
Danny Carey (Tool)
Spug (Mudvayne)
Mike Dupke (DragonForce)
Mike Smith (Suffocation)

[Therma lobsterdore]

Charlie zeleny (Behold the arctopus)
Sean reinhert (Cynic, Aghora, Death)
Bobby jarzombek (Spastic ink)

All of these guys are technical masters, blending extreme metal drumming with jazz, prog rock and a multitude of other styles, first class!

My favourite high speed drummers are:

Andy C (Wormed)
Flo mournier (Cryptopsy)
Tomás Corn (Lykathea aflame)

[Conor]

Dan Foord

www.myspace.com/sikth

[DreamTheater4life]

Bobby Jarzombek
Derek Roddy
George Kollias

[bcarson27]

I just wanted to see what everyone else thinks.

[benadrian]

Does John Stainer of Helmet count?

Ben

[Sutor]

Definitley Martin Lopez from Opeth. What a leg-end! Such a unique style for a metal drummer, insanely fast and tight double pedalling etc. but such a great feel too, sort of latin jazz influences in his playing. So relaxed, just awesome.
Its a shame he had to leave Opeth, i dont think they'll ever be able to find anyone so versatile.

Id seriously check out some stuff if you haven't heard it. If you wanna hear some of his full on metal playing listen to a song like 'Deliverence', for his more laid back playing theres loads of great tunes from the Damnation album which is all pretty soft stuff, 'In my time of need' is a great example.

Anyway, rant over, what does everyone else think?

[spides666]

Chris Adler of Lamb of God....before he came along, Dave Lombardo.

[bcarson27]

I personally like daniel erlandsson.

[cavica]

Chris Adler of Lamb of God
Yep my favorite too. He has some really cool fills (now you've got something to die for pops into my mind), good beats and his double peddle chops are great.

[Mr. Pasquini]

Brann Dailor of Mastodon

[TheStephen]

Steve Flynn of Atheist, especially on the album Unquestionable Presence. He and Tony Choy were the rhythm section from hell on there, and there's even a drum and bass only recording of Mother Man on the reissue to drive that point home. One of the only really technical bands I listen to anymore.

[-Nirvana-]

My fav. metal drummer is:mike bordin,chris alder,lars ulrick(no one said him),

[razorx]

http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11416&highlight=best+metal+drumer

These are mine.

[sushiserenade]

Does Danny Carey count? If he doesn't I'd have to go with Lars.

Two ''stock'' choices, I know, I just like the parts they come up with.

[Therma lobsterdore]

Sean reinert or Bobby jarzombek, both are very fast and extremely technical, they also blend a multitude of styles and genre's seamlessly and there creativity never ceases to amaze me. They piss all over the majoirty of metal drummers out there IMHO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bDTV9QUOys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQUfSfXjoE&feature=related

[Resok]

John Dolmayan.
Metal drumming with heavy jazz influences = pwn.

[bonzolead]

Vinnie Paul not the most techinal but the guy just has cool chops I also like Nick Menza the old drummer from Megadeth another cat with cool chops don't. know why Dave M. fired him but he goes through musicians like socks LOL

Bonzolead

[Smashin Jack]

I like Mike Portnoy and Mark Zonder but that's just the love of prog showing, I think...
I saw Dave Lombardo at a club in the early nineties and he's amazing. I don't know many other drummers. OK, Chris Alder, he was great to see live, too. Any other suggestions? (not too many please!)

[driver]

Brann Dailor of Mastodon

Agreed! Fantastic playing on Blood Mountain every drummer should listen to it even if they hate metal.

[Guillermo]

Danny Carey is in my opinion the guy who's done the most impressive and original drumming in the whole genre... I am no metal expert... although in the late 80's early 90's I was very into it...

Carey's drumming is technically flawless, challenging, with a very unique sound and concept that fits the music so well... he's a HUGE part of TOOL's sound... all that rocking hard... totally outside clichés... to do that in ANY style is an amazing achievement.. if I were a kid growing up today I'd be a total Danny Carey Groupie... ha, ha, ha.

[Tutin]

Derek Roddy is definitely up there, quite probably Andols Herrick too. Impossibility of reason was really something else. And I'll probably get flogged for saying this but Mr Joey Jordison is really great. I'm not saying he's the best, fastest or anything like that but I really do like his feel and power. Great drummer IMO.

I'd have to say Andols gets it though.

[Ben Tormey]

Sean Reinert, Bobby Jarzombek, Derek Roddy have been mentioned but I have to second them. Bobby has got a great personality, no ego, and I respect him for that.

It's pretty difficult to pick a favourite, it depends a lot on what I'm listening to at the moment.

[bcarson27]

Agreed! Fantastic playing on Blood Mountain every drummer should listen to it even if they hate metal.

brann dailor has re-invented prog-metal.

[marchofthefireants]

Chris Adler (Lamb Of God)
John Merryman (Cephalic Carnage)
Shannon Lucas (Black Dahlia Murder/All That Remains)
Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
Chris Pennie (Dillinger Escape Plan)

[schist]

Danny Carey (Tool)
Martin Lopez (Opeth)
Dan Foord (sikTh)
Peter Wildoer (Darkane)
Dirk Verbeuren (Scarve, Soilwork)
Aquiles Priester (Angra)
Jason Rullo (Symphony X)
David Haley (Psycroptic/Ruins/The Amenta/Blood Duster) - it's a shame this guy isn't as recognized as he should be.
Conny Pettersson (ANATA) - Ditto.
Sean Reinert (Cynic)
Bobby Jarzombek
Gene Hoglan

too many to list, really.

[Ben Tormey]

No one's mentioned Hellhammer (Jan Axel Blomberg) yet! Also, Stef Broks, the drummer for Textures, is excellent.

[DreamTheater4life]

George Kollias, Romain Goulon, Derek Roddy

my top 3.

[franklinj]

No ones mentioned Culross of Malevolent Creation yet? Search up Night of the Long Knives and Pursuit Revised to see what im talkin about.

[xopethx]

Dirk Vanbeuren (Scarve)
Hellhammer (a million bands, notably Arcturus and Shining)
Martin Lopez (Amon Amarth, Opeth)
Giuseppe Orlando (Novembre)
David Husvik (Extol, Ganglion)
Danny Walker (Intronaut, Exhumed)
Tomas Haake (Meshuggah)
Morgan Ågren (Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects)
Trym Torson (Emperor, Zyklon)
Van Williams (Nevermore)
Ryan Van Poederooyen (NonHuman Level, Devin Townsend Band)
Nick Pierce (The Faceless)
Daniel Erlandsson (Arch Enemy)
Charlie Zeleny (Behold...The Arctopus, Blotted Science)
Kevin Foley (Benighted)
Ettore Rigotti (Disarmonia Mundi)
Patrice Hamelin (Martyr)
Kai Hahto (Wintersun, Rotten Sound)

i tried to not put the obvious ones ;-) Hopefully there's some stuff here that you guys will dig.

[toddy]

gene hoglan (the man)
thomas haake (meshuggah)
derek roddy (hate eternal!)
george kolias (nile)
alex pelletier (despised icon)
mike smith (suffocation)
paul mazurkiewicz (cannibal corpse)
max duhamel (kataklysm)

there's so many more great drummers (espec. in tech death) but it would take too long to list them.

[balboa]

michelson from Spiral Architect
Igor cavelera from Sepultura
Vinnie Paul from Pantera

[drummerchick435]

OMFG, Mike Portnoy of course!!!

[Ironcobra]

metal can cover so many drummers, strictly metal I really like Chris Adler and Joey Jordison, but...

Since metal can cover many more sub categories and older bands I would say Portnoy and Ulrich top them all.

Portnoy just because hes amazing and just happens to me under the progressive metal genre

And Lars Ulrich not because hes the most skilled or talented drummer, but becuase he has the attitude and style that helped metallica sell those albums, hes not a dull drummer, he just goes out there and has fun and gets into the music. That makes a great drummer more then quick feet and insane fills.

[sXeDanimalsXe]

Me, Dan Pelzel!
but besides me..Brann Dailor, Abe Cunningham, Gene Hoglan, Dennis Merrick (Earth Crisis), Igor.. oh wait THE MAN!!! Dave Witte. That guy is amazing. One of the most underrated drummers around. Bobby Jarzombek.

[balboa]

OMFG, Mike Portnoy of course!!!

How could i forget!!!!!!!! LOL

[TBL]

I really like travis smith from Trivium >.>

[TheStephen]

So I'm listening to Suffocation's debut album Effigy of the Forgotten, and I forgot how friggin' SOLID Mike Smith is on it. Nothing too fancy, just solid as a rock. And probably the best blast beats I've heard. Not nearly the fastest, mind you, just the best.

[Therma lobsterdore]

Yeah Mike smith's blasts are awesome, Rich Hoak of Brutal truth also lays down some of the best blast beats I've ever heard

[The Executoner]

Derek Roddy (I understood metal drumming thanks to him!! :D)
George Kollias
Dave Lombardo
Jürgen Reil
Igor Cavalera
Nocholas Barker
Tony Laureano
Inferno

[Damian Blake]

Ya I might get ripped on this one. I am an old mean bastard in my age and I grew up with the likes of these people here in no particular order.

Lars Ulrich
Mickey Dee
Vinnie Paul
Dave Lombardo

I have to give props to this dude
Andy Galeon
This kid was 13 years old ehen he recorded Death Angels Ultra Violence Album

Personally my criteria is the drummers style and not necessarily how fast and tight he can play, but that's important too. Seems today everyone is into the blastbeat thing and
I don't want to see the drummers get over saturated with one style.

Yes I love Fear Factory and bands of that caliber today.
I give them props for helping to introduce the next level of playing.

[bcarson27]

Joey Jordison (I know many people will slate me for this but his playing gives me chills)

Andols Herrick (Don't you know it?!)

Derek Roddy (Yeah!)

Pete Sandoval (YEAH!!)

Gene Hoglan (OH YEAAHHH!)

Daniel Erlandersson

Raymond Hererra

George Kollias

And last but not least...


ME! Oh yah rly...

ANDOLS HERRICK! YAY!

I'm not too fond of resurrection though.

...when he played "Everything You Love" my face melted off.

[TonKpilS_657]

ANDOLS HERRICK! YAY!

I'm not too fond of resurrection though.

...when he played "Everything You Love" my face melted off.

uh oh. an uneducated chimaira fan.

the drummer on their self titled release was none other than the infamous Kevin Talley.

[Construct]

Raymond Herrera

Bobby Jarzombek

Derek Roddy

Gene Hoglan (Dethklok owns you)

Steve Asheim

Tomas Hakke

Tim Yeung

Daniel Erlandsson

Paul Bostaph (Slayer's better half next Jeff Hanneman)

Flo Mounier

Martin Lopez (OPETH LOLZ!!11!!_

[Construct]

I really like travis smith from Trivium >.>

Uh.........Travis Smith isn't a Metal drummer, he is in fact, a butt-rock drummer.

[OldSpice]

Henry Wilson, no question he's my favorite. His work in the Florida Sludge bands Cavity and Floor is amazing. It's sludge, so it isn't fast, and it isn't complex (he plays a 4 piece kit, single bass, but his snare beats and crashes are perfectly placed and created unique pacing that really set these bands apart from most in the genre.

[Banzai]

Joey Jordison (slipknot)

[DreamTheater4life]

Joey Jordison (slipknot)

fail

202020202020

[lewisn27]

travis smith (trivium)
tim yeung (divine heresy)
derek roddy (don't know)
dave lombardo (slayer)

[djp132]

Roddy really takes the cake for me. The guy is just a monster. To be able to play that fast and solid and make it look so easy...

And he has GREAT first name.....

[Banzai]

fail

202020202020
WTF?

If i can add some more: Portnoy, Peart, the guy from Meshugga and Mudvayne's.

[soulnomad]

Gene Hoglan
Daniel Erlandsson
Raymond Herrera
Aquiles Priester
Brann Dailor
Corey Pierce

[djlouis]

I'm a little bit old school when it comes to metal but I included some new guys that I love too, here's the list:

Charlie Benante
Vinnie Paul
Shannon Larkin
Chris Adler
Mark Zonder
Brann Dailor
Scott Travis
Mickey Dee
Richard Christy
Sean Reinheart
Patrice Hamelin (you must hear his band Martyr)

And I don't know if those can qualify as metal drummer cause they play single bass but in the 80's they we're called metal:
Nicko Mcbrain
Vinny Appice
Mike Bordin

[nip]

Not a metal fan, but I do like:

Derek Roddy
Danny Carey
Kai Hahto
George Kollias

[Therma lobsterdore]

I forgot about Kai, he's a legend!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6PpsY9yvGQ

[Mr. Pasquini]

I'll expand my list to include all of my favorites:

Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
Derek Roddy (Serpents Rise)
Nicholas Barker (Ex Dimmu Borgir)
Chris Adler (Lamb of God)
Gene Hoglan (Ex Strapping Young Lad, Dethklok)
Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
Raymond Herrera (Fear Factory)
Martin Lopez (Ex Opeth)
Zbigniew Robert Promiński (known as Inferno) (Behemoth)
George Kollias (Nile)
Bobby Jarzombek (Spastic Ink)
John Tempesta (White/Rob Zombie)
Danny Carey (Tool)

[DreamTheater4life]

WTF?

If i can add some more: Portnoy, Peart, the guy from Meshugga and Mudvayne's.

ok now it's a win (except for Mudvaynes dude b/c i dont really listen to them so i dont know him) Tomas Haake is awesome (the Meshuggah guy)

[bacca]

chris kontos-machine head...
and the guy who drums for slipknot(sorry don't know his name.)
dave lombardo-slayer
igor cavalera-sepultura
gene hoglan(spell?)-ex dark angel

[killswitchsevenknot666]

joey jordison

the rev

brandon saller

vinnie pual

daniel addair

the guy from cradle of filth

john tempesta

[killswitchsevenknot666]

my friends, Danny Carey From TOOL is the best metal drummer

very nice you no your drummers wat is the drummers name from cradle of filth i...idk no it can you help me

[tooldrums1000]

Not in a any order.
Marco Minnemann(Necrophagist)
Jaska Raatikainen(Children of Bodom)
Janne Parviainen(Ensiferum)(Sinergy)
Vitek(Decapitated)RIP---------------------- Attention Everone listen to Spheres of Madness!
Trym Torson(Emperor)
Faust(Emperor)
Nicholas Barker(Dimmu Borgir)(Testament)

[furrowgroove]

Let's see... I generally dont refer to Black Sabbath (with Ozzy) as metal.. more heavy rock- but for those of you that do.. BILL WARD all the way. Continuing along that path i would say Vinny Appice played some heavy drums after Bill left. And Scott Travis from Judas Priest is also up there.

Also I can't believe I haven't seen JASON RULLO from Symphony X on this list! That guy has amazing chops, and works perfect stylistically and actually very musically with the crazy odd times that band plays.

[drummingman]

my favs are:
gene hoglan
tomas haake
david husvik (extol)
lance garvin (living sacrifice)

[Mr. Pasquini]

very nice you no your drummers wat is the drummers name from cradle of filth i...idk no it can you help me

There have been a ton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cradle_of_Filth_band_members
Nicholas Barker is my favorite Cradle drummer.

[Matt-a-tat-tat]

Does nobody know who Peter Wildoer of Darkane is? The guy kills.

[darkstar442]

i gots 4 least to best

Joey Jordison
Travis Smith
Chris Adler!!!
George Kollias!!!!!

he is with the insane band. (I couldnt decide between george kollias or chris adler)

NILE!!!

[jesusfetusis6]

Ben Koller of Converge. that guy is amazing.

[Dani Lenish]

Frost- Satyricon
Jan axel blomberg- Dimmu Borgir
Mike Portnoy-DT
Flo Mounier-Cryptopsy
Richard Christy-Death
Chris Adler-LOG

[Toothbrush]

Hellhammer (Jan Axel Blomberg)
Tomas Haake
Chris Adler
Morgan Agren (with Fredrik Thordendahl)
Derek Roddy
Chris Pennie (if it's metal)
Danny Carey
Thor Henrik (She Said Destroy)
The Drummer for Behemoth

[Tutin]

I think this thread has ran it's course, we can all conclude that I am everybody's favourite metal drummer.


FACT

[schist]

I think this thread has ran it's course, we can all conclude that I am everybody's favourite metal drummer.


FACT

Maybe so, but you better have someone video you doing a drum solo on a rotating pentagram riser if you wanna win the "under-16s" vote! =P

[schist]

fail

202020202020

Now THIS is the type of elitism that makes me ashamed to be a metal follower at times.

Just in case you missed it, the title of this thread is "Favorite Metal Drummer". "Favorite" is, more often than not, based on opinion.

All this time I thought you'd be better than buying into the whole "true metal" elitism malarkey, dude. :(

[schist]

No one's mentioned Hellhammer (Jan Axel Blomberg) yet! Also, Stef Broks, the drummer for Textures, is excellent.

I keep hearing of this Textures, what are they like? Similar bands etc?

The only "Textures" I knew of before this was the Cynic song. :)

[Tutin]

Maybe so, but you better have someone video you doing a drum solo on a rotating pentagram riser if you wanna win the "under-16s" vote! =P

I have the camera if you want to supply the riser?

[Ben Tormey]

I keep hearing of this Textures, what are they like? Similar bands etc?

The only "Textures" I knew of before this was the Cynic song. :)

They're a Dutch technical metal band and they use polyrythmns extensively, like Meshuggah.

http://www.myspace.com/textures

[Big Chris]

I keep hearing of this Textures, what are they like? Similar bands etc?

The only "Textures" I knew of before this was the Cynic song. :)

They're good. Very technical but a touch more melodic than Meshuggah.

Got 2 albums out if I'm not mistaken, definitely worth a listen.

(Also, check out 'Byzantine' if you can, they're another good technical band)

Oh yeah......& 'Scar Symmetry' (Not the most technical band around but heavy & melodic & technical bits here & there)

[dragonXforce925]

my god. what is wrong with todays people? only one person has said blake richardson. i'm going to go out on a limb and assume that whoever doesn't have him on their lists has never heard of between the buried and me. go listen to "colors", and then try not have him on your top metal drummer lists. mine would be:

Blake Richardson - Between the Buried and Me ("white walls", "ants of the sky" and "prequel to the sequel" off of "colors" really get to me. especially the cowbell part around 4:30ish in "ants of the sky" :D)

Dirk Verbeuren - Soilwork/Sybreed (his sort-of-drum-solo is amazing near the end of "revive my wounds" from sybreed's "antares" album)

Nick Barker - Old Man's Child ("sacrifice of vengeance" from "in defiance of existence", no other words need to be said)

Marco Pitruzzella - Brain Drill (listen to "the parasites" on their myspace, his blast beats are ridiculous)

Tomas Haake - Meshuggah (very repetitive, but very good nonetheless)

and that would be, in my opinion, the best 5 metal drummers.

[razzmonid]

This was chosen due to not only their speed but also on the
way the accompany the melodies of the songs they play in:

1 Dave Lombardo - Slayer, Testament Grip Inc...
2 Shannon Larkin - Wrathchild America, Ugly Kid Joe, Godsmack
3 Igor Cavalera - Sepultura, Cavalera Conspiracy
4 Mike Portnoy - DreamTheater
5 Nick Menza - Megadeth
6 Jürgen 'Ventor' Reil - Kreator
7 Paul Bostaph - Testament, Slayer...
8 Jason Rullo - Symphony X
9 Alex Holzwarth - Rhapsody
10 Charlie Benante - Anthrax

There are so many good drummers to choose from Vinnie Paul, Chris Adler, Lars Ulrich,
John Temptesta and Tom Hunting! but those 10 are the top of their field!

[The Keith Moon]

I cant decide which ones better cause the music is different with different bands, and every song can be played a number of ways! Thats what i do when i hear records.

[king fail]

has no one ever heard ofVITEK?!?!

oh yeah and tomas haake obvs
haake = sweet chops, mad time sigs AND he can groove like a motherb*tch!
:P

[Jonesy]

Danny Carey is by far my favorite. But recently I started listening to Black Sabbath, and Bill Ward is a machine.

[Ben Tormey]

has no one ever heard of VITEK?!?!

Vitek just kicked in, yo?

[#choke#]

my god. what is wrong with todays people? only one person has said blake richardson. i'm going to go out on a limb and assume that whoever doesn't have him on their lists has never heard of between the buried and me. go listen to "colors", and then try not have him on your top metal drummer lists.

.

Blake richardson is amazing, i dont remember if the one other person who said him was me already or not havent been on in a while but yes, if you havent heard of him listen to the album colors by between the buried and me, my favorite album, by far one of my favorite drummers, next to portnoy!

[dc's_finest]

Oh so many.....who to start with?
(not in any particular order)
Kevin Talley- Daath
Chris Adler- Lamb of God
Andols Herrick- Chimaira
Gene Hoglan- SYL, ZImmers Hole, Dethklok
Dave Lombardo- Slayer
Igor Cavalera- Cavalera conspiracy, Sepultura
Vinnie Paul- Pantera, Damageplan, Hell Yeah
Jason Bittner- In Flames
John Boeklin- DevilDriver
Jon Rice- Job For Cowboy
Lars Ulrich- Metallica
Thomas Haake- Meshuggah

Many more but those are the main ones I try to copy styles from.

[schist]

has no one ever heard ofVITEK?!?!

oh yeah and tomas haake obvs
haake = sweet chops, mad time sigs AND he can groove like a motherb*tch!
:P

Yeah, Vitek was one of the best metal drummers of the recent age, but I feel people are just jumping on the "R.I.P Vitek" bandwagon just to gain 'metal' cred (as they did/are still doing with Dimebag Darrell) ....

[aydee]

I'm one of those odd balls who finds something listen-able & learn-able in all drummers. It hard for me to dislike a pro drummer, regardless of genres.. Metal, Screamo, etc are not my thing at all, but I really enjoy listening to Derek Roddy and Chris Adler.

I've also had the good fortune of meeting & hanging with some of the best and they are all not only great musicians, but very inspirational people too.

Sure, there might be some megalomaniacal boy kings of Babylon out there, but man, I haven't met one yet!

Good guys, drummers...mostly..

[2Three]

I would say Shannon Larkin.

[Hercules]

Does anybody remember Bobby Caldwell from Captain Beyond?

A Thousand Days of Yesterday in particular....though I guess you'd call that "flower power metal"......

[Ian Williams]

Hello, All.

In metal terms are:

Old (template) generation: William (Bill) Ward - Black Sabbath.

New generation: Ivan de Prume - White Zombie, John Tempesta - White/Rob Zombie, Dave Holland/Scott Travis - Judas Priest, Nick Menza - Megadeth, Tony Richards/Steve Riley - WASP, Randy Castillo - Ozzy Osbourne, Brian Downey - Thin Lizzy, Rob (Wacko) Hunter - Raven.

Cordially!

[king fail]

Yeah, Vitek was one of the best metal drummers of the recent age, but I feel people are just jumping on the "R.I.P Vitek" bandwagon just to gain 'metal' cred (as they did/are still doing with Dimebag Darrell) ....

i know exactly what you mean man, half my friends are 'metalheads', or so they say;
"omgomgomgomgomg SLIPKNOT <3"

... you know the type
and as soon as Witold kicks the bucket, they're like,
"MMMM I LOVE DAT VITEK, SLAYER ARE THE BEST!!!!!"

....decapitated, dude.

although i must say, i don't have that much experience with dimebag's playing.

[polyrhythmic1]

Tomas Haake
Gene Hoglan
Sean Reinert

= WIN

[Skitch]

Gregg Bissonette on David Lee Roth's Eat 'em and Smile Cd


Mike

http://www.mikemccraw.com
http://www.dominoretroplate.com

http://www.youtube.com/drummermikemccraw
http://www.myspace.com/drummermikemccraw

[joeyd0619]

Nicko Mcbrain, Iron Maiden. Finess.....Mostly Single Kick I believe.

[priji]

I would say Brann Dailor is good.

[Mystic]

Ginger Fish - Marilyn Manson
Tomas Haake - Meshuggah

[crdirtRider856]

That kid from Hanson? after that IMO-Danny Carey,Martin Lopez, Brann Daylor, Matt Mcdonough, more. Can anyone really be the "best"? No, these are just MY favorites....

[prempex]

my fav's
1 derek roddy-hate etenal.
2 gene hoglan-strapping young lad
3 george kollias-nile
4 vinnie-paul abbot-pantera,damageplan,rebel ,meets rebel
5 tomas haake-meshuggah
6 sojo-Exit strategy(from this site, he amazes me)
7 dave lombardo-slayer.fantomas
8 ray herrera-fear factory
9 jacob green-the red shore ( www.myspace.com/theredshore ) check them out,if you like metal.
10 chris adler-Lamb of god

[ceckha]

1. blake richardson - between the buried and me
2. jason bittner - shadows fall
3. mark castillo - bury your dead (formerly between the buried and me's drummer)
4. shannon lucas - the black dahlia murder
5. brian hood - mychildren mybride
6. shawn cameron - carnifex
7. chris adler - lamb of god
8. ben gordon - parkway drive

i know it said "drummer" but i decided i'd name several.

[blasterbeat]

Does anybody remember Bobby Caldwell from Captain Beyond?

A Thousand Days of Yesterday in particular....though I guess you'd call that "flower power metal"......

hey, i have a captain beyond cd...their first i believe, rod evans on vocals: original deep purple singer. ya like uriah heep? lee kerslake could thump.

[Citizen Insane]

I'd have to say Tomas Haake.

[dqmot17]

chris adler, jason bittner, and joey jordison

[er1c]

Lars Ulrich!

Why?

Let me tell you kids...

Maybe you missed "written by Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield" next to almost every Metallica song.

In a future.. do you really think that anyone will remember (or listen) to any of the pointless machine gun alike double bass pounding made by your so called "cool drummers"... and their so called "songs"
The answer is NO!.. thing that will remain are musical masterpieces like Metallica albums.. and Lars Ulrich's drumming style that gave those songs the pulse.

Why do you kids think that something played really fast with double kick is sooo coool and Heavy?.. Does that mean that one of the heaviest metal songs ever "For whom the bell tolls" or "Sad but true" are crap by default?

What makes a great musician is songmaking and playing capabilities, NOT a circus acts "1000 bpm" double bass speed freaks, rotating pentagram seats, makeup, and all the other fast playing crap...

Who gives a crap about blast beats and "super ultra mega giga fast playing double bass"?? Who likes that anyway.. except adolescents (aka drummers) pissed off because of a big zit on their face, or because they cant fu*k prettiest girl in school. Ulrich could play that crap too.. but I believe that he never found a place in a song for that so called "beat".
Understand that music is not a speed competition!! You are not great drummer (or musician) if you play 600 bpm!! Try to listen more to a song and not just how fast is someone drumming. Does that mean, that some songs and albums are "kick ass" just because drummer is using a double bass alot.. disregarding the fact that those same songs in a whole sound like a sh*t?

Anyway, what makes Ulrich way better from all the other metal drummers are those great songs he wrote over the years, and the way he played them.. Noone so far could play his songs better than himself.. many have tried and failed. I dont believe that anyone on this thread thinks that, for example, Lang, Lombardo or Jordison could think of better way to play "Hit the lights", "Battery", "Dyers eve", "Frayed ends of sanity", etc..

To me.. compared to Ulrich many other drummers look like a drum sample modules, just rhythm machines, playing crappy songs really fast. Enough said.

(P.S. For all the Lars haters: this post is not about L.Ulrich, his acts, statements nor his personality, just about great musician, song author and drummer)

[woodrow226]

I think mine has to go

lars ulrich
nicko mcbrian
martin lopez, fo sho
gene the machine
thomas haake
vinnie paul

[VedranS]

Lars Ulrich!

Ulrich could play that crap too.. but I believe that he never found a place in a song for that so called "beat".

All musicality aside, no he couldn't. Not that he's incapable of learning to necessarily, just like any other human being, but with his current technical facility he'd fall apart in a second trying to play speed-metal type stuff....nothing against his supposedly genious level of creativity, depth of emotional expression, and abundance of insight into the complex and subtle nature of music.

I don't listen to a ton of metal, but I love Danny Carey, he kills me every time, just because of how expressive he is on those drums, not because of the metal. I swear I can almost hear sentences/talking/emotions in his phrases. Also, Derek Roddy's been impressing the hell out of me since I've been hanging out here, and the other guys people on here talk about that I've looked up since(kollias, hoglan, haake)

[PQleyR]

Lars Ulrich!

Why?

Let me tell you kids...

Maybe you missed "written by Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield" next to almost every Metallica song.

In a future.. do you really think that anyone will remember (or listen) to any of the pointless machine gun alike double bass pounding made by your so called "cool drummers"... and their so called "songs"
The answer is NO!.. thing that will remain are musical masterpieces like Metallica albums.. and Lars Ulrich's drumming style that gave those songs the pulse.

Why do you kids think that something played really fast with double kick is sooo coool and Heavy?.. Does that mean that one of the heaviest metal songs ever "For whom the bell tolls" or "Sad but true" are crap by default?

What makes a great musician is songmaking and playing capabilities, NOT a circus acts "1000 bpm" double bass speed freaks, rotating pentagram seats, makeup, and all the other fast playing crap...

Who gives a crap about blast beats and "super ultra mega giga fast playing double bass"?? Who likes that anyway.. except adolescents (aka drummers) pissed off because of a big zit on their face, or because they cant fu*k prettiest girl in school. Ulrich could play that crap too.. but I believe that he never found a place in a song for that so called "beat".
Understand that music is not a speed competition!! You are not great drummer (or musician) if you play 600 bpm!! Try to listen more to a song and not just how fast is someone drumming. Does that mean, that some songs and albums are "kick ass" just because drummer is using a double bass alot.. disregarding the fact that those same songs in a whole sound like a sh*t?

Anyway, what makes Ulrich way better from all the other metal drummers are those great songs he wrote over the years, and the way he played them.. Noone so far could play his songs better than himself.. many have tried and failed. I dont believe that anyone on this thread thinks that, for example, Lang, Lombardo or Jordison could think of better way to play "Hit the lights", "Battery", "Dyers eve", "Frayed ends of sanity", etc..

To me.. compared to Ulrich many other drummers look like a drum sample modules, just rhythm machines, playing crappy songs really fast. Enough said.

(P.S. For all the Lars haters: this post is not about L.Ulrich, his acts, statements nor his personality, just about great musician, song author and drummer)

Welcome to the forum...are you ok? Do you want someone to talk to about this?

[er1c]

Welcome to the forum...are you ok? Do you want someone to talk to about this?

Thank you for your sarcastic "welcome".. and No I don't need someone to talk about that. Im not trying to convince someone that Ulrich is the best drummer or anything like that.. just trying to explain to this young "drummers" on this forum that blast beats and playing double bass on 600 bpm DOESN'T make you a cool and great drummer. Its ok to be able to play super fast but whats a point? I can't recall even one good song played that fast.
And I was kinda pissed off because everyone keeps leaving Ulrich out of their lists. It feels like his name is kinda taboo in here, shameful even to mention.
I admit that I dont like Ulrich's behavior too.. he acts like a spoiled brat, but please understand that he wrote and PLAYED some of the greatest metal stuff ever, so I think that he definitely deserves place next to all those drummers on your "speed kick competition" lists.
Its easy to learn double kick, But to make song like "One" and use double kick wisely to enhance and highlight one segment of that song.. well that makes a real artist and drummer!

I've seen many crazy drummers.. even one that juggles his drumsticks through the air and plays the beat with them at the same time, (way more impresive than playing double kick fast). That guy is a great percussionist and drumming performer.. but drumming is more related to MUSIC than to exibitionism. Try to comprehend that pls.

[ericmiles]

er1c,

You're actually making some good points, but just be aware that you sound like a total jerk-off. I hope this is not your intent.

I would add Charlie Benante of Anthrax to the category of drummers who write a good deal of their band's music.

I made a similar point in another thread about drumming history, but what young people, drummers included care about is The NOW. And it's youngsters disregard for the past that makes them MORE progressive than old-timers. Metallica is a perfect example of this.

The young who don't respect the old should be taught, but the old who don't respect the young, sit on your ass and watch yourself get passed.

eric

[ceckha]

please understand that he wrote and PLAYED some of the greatest metal stuff ever


please understand that the problem with that statement is everyone has a different opinion on what the best is.

[er1c]

er1c,

I made a similar point in another thread about drumming history, but what young people, drummers included care about is The NOW. And it's youngsters disregard for the past that makes them MORE progressive than old-timers. Metallica is a perfect example of this.

The young who don't respect the old should be taught, but the old who don't respect the young, sit on your ass and watch yourself get passed.

eric

It's not my intention to sound like jerk at all. Just trying to explain that to me Quality of music and song is way more important than Quantity of bass kicks.

Miles u've made some good points in your post.. I couldn't agree more.
But could you or anyone else just explain to me.. where do you see MORE progressiveness??

I've spent years in searching for something new and more (or at least same) progressive as metal music was back in 80's and 90's. It seems like all creativity and inspiration left planet Earth back in the year 2000. (those who like Trivium, Bullet for my valentine or similar "bands" might not agree with this)
And drummers just play faster and keep on putting more and more bpm's and triplets in songs, trying to make sh*t look pretty.

last time I was like "WOW" was after I've heard "No leaf clover" and S&M, almost 10 years ago.

Pls tell me who made that progress in Metal in the last 10 years, and which drummer contributed to it by his musical creativity? I've never heard the big news.



All musicality aside, no he couldn't. Not that he's incapable of learning to necessarily, just like any other human being, but with his current technical facility he'd fall apart in a second trying to play speed-metal type stuff

..and that is what is gonna happen to him and Metallica if they continue to "reinvent" Master of puppets and play like they are 30 yrs younger.



please understand that the problem with that statement is everyone has a different opinion on what the best is.

you are right, Im just trying to say whats best for me.. and, I believe, for zilion other metal fans and players, and whats not.

[ceckha]

er1c, i do have to agree that metal drumming does have a high amount of sameness and lack of creativity today. but there are still the select few who stand out though.

[vicsmurf]

er1c, i do have to agree that metal drumming does have a high amount of sameness and lack of creativity today. but there are still the select few who stand out though.
To me two of the most original drummers to the genre are Matt Greiner of August Burns Red (youtube him, he's great), and this kid named Alex from a much smaller band called Drop The Gun http://www.myspace.com/dropthegunrocks
Check both out seriously.

[Therma lobsterdore]

er1c, i do have to agree that metal drumming does have a high amount of sameness and lack of creativity today. but there are still the select few who stand out though.

You could say the same thing about most genre's, each one is full of similar sounding bands, but there are always plenty of unique and interesting bands if your willing to look for them.

[ddood]

No one has included Matt McDonough from Mudvayne!

Admittedly some drummers listed may be 'better', but he definately deserves to be on the list!! :D

Yeah, most definately. Matt is one of my favorite drummers. I could listen to him all day and not get bored.

[Khaine88]

Oh so many.....who to start with?
(not in any particular order)
Kevin Talley- Daath
Chris Adler- Lamb of God
Andols Herrick- Chimaira
Gene Hoglan- SYL, ZImmers Hole, Dethklok
Dave Lombardo- Slayer
Igor Cavalera- Cavalera conspiracy, Sepultura
Vinnie Paul- Pantera, Damageplan, Hell Yeah
Jason Bittner- In Flames
John Boeklin- DevilDriver
Jon Rice- Job For Cowboy
Lars Ulrich- Metallica
Thomas Haake- Meshuggah

Many more but those are the main ones I try to copy styles from.

jason bittner is from shadows fall, daniel svensson is in flames drummer

[skyfish]

just have to cue in a little something on this. as far as progression goes, It's always been the same, and it will always be the same. There are great players in every genre of music, and there are not so great players, progressions are discovered through real listening , not understanding something that is progressive is different from there not being any progressions. There will always be cutting edge players out there, you just have to be really listening for them.

[Pass.of.E.r.a.]

Jaska Raatikainen- Children of Bodom
Martin Axenrot- Opeth
Thomas Haake- Meshuggah
Mike Portnoy- Dream Theater (if you consider that metal i guess lol)
Joey Jordison- SlipKnoT

[joshlovestodrum]

Brann Dailor from Mastodon

[FARSHADIGIORGIO]

JOEY JORDISON
DAVE LOMBARDO
JOHN TEMPESTA
BOBBY JARZOMBEK
DANNY CAREY
GENE HOGLAN
MIKE PORTNOY
JIMMY DEGRASSO
NICO MCBRAIN
TERRY BOZZIO
PAUL BOSTAPH

[Vipercussionist]

Understand that music is not a speed competition!! You are not great drummer (or musician) if you play 600 bpm!! Try to listen more to a song and not just how fast is someone drumming. Does that mean, that some songs and albums are "kick ass" just because drummer is using a double bass a lot.. disregarding the fact that those same songs in a whole sound like a sh*t?

Uhhh, YUHHH!!!!! About time SOMEONE realizes that music is not about just a single musician, but about the song.

Correct again that these "machines" won't be remembered for their music, most likely won't be remembered at ALL due to their lack of songs to remember them by.

Instrument prowess is great, when put into a context that makes them shine and makes them rememberable, but for every drummer playing "600 BPM" there are a dozen others doing it too, also to inferior music, putting the drummers in a soup that will hardly boil any of them to the top to be noticed and remembered.

Take a tip from Derek Roddy, as awesome as his extreme drumming is, he can still play in a blues band playing a double shuffle and swingin' like a bastid!! Ya know why?? He's a musician!!

Check his YouTube if you think I'm kidding.

Just my 6¢
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[TheMarkV]

i dont listen to metal, but ive heard a fair share and the only band that i genuinely enjoy is a band from a city near where i live called lancaster, Pa.
his name is Matt Greiner and hes from a band called August Burns Red. He's all kinds of sick. cool guy too. but you should look into him and that band. he has a profile on truth custom's website. plus theres the band website.

http://www.truthdrums.com/
http://www.augustburnsred.com/

[Jalli]

Danny Carey - Tool
Chris Adler - Lamb of God
Dirk Verbeuren - Soilwork
Heikki Malmberg - Diablo

[Toza]

Vinnie Paul..................................

[metal overlord]

Their is no bad metal drummer, their all unique in their own way. Fast, complex, groove, it doesn't matter. They all good.


BUT, these are my personal favs

Vinnie Paul
SCOTT TRAVIS <<< I love this guy
Lars Ulrich
Dave McClain
Dave Lombardo
Chris Alder
Jason Bittner
Joey Jordison
Mike Portnoy
Paul Bostaph
Travis Smith

and thats just to name a few

[ThisSpitefulSnake]

Tomas Haake - Just indescribable talent.

Chris Adler - Nice speed and creativity.

Joey Jordison - Love the brutalness in his playing and he was first to get me to start playing.

Derek Roddy - Very fast and has nice techniques of increasing speed and endurance.

Morgen Agren - Not just metal, but jazz and has talent like Tomas Haake.

[drumbum1977]

Nicko McBrian......single pedal baby!

[Ainulindale]

Chris Adler - because he keeps the heavy in metal with double bass drums that sound more like bass and less like popcorn!
And Lars Ulrich - because he's an inspiration 2nd only to my father...

[Crusto 62]

All the drummers from Spinal Tap ( Best Metal Band Ever ).

[joshisaces]

i dont listen to metal, but ive heard a fair share and the only band that i genuinely enjoy is a band from a city near where i live called lancaster, Pa.
his name is Matt Greiner and hes from a band called August Burns Red. He's all kinds of sick. cool guy too. but you should look into him and that band. he has a profile on truth custom's website. plus theres the band website.

http://www.truthdrums.com/
http://www.augustburnsred.com/

YES, he is the bomb.
He's my favorite. I went to go see august burns red at a show, and he was sick!!1 ;]

[BrutalKid]

Derek Roddy-Xtreme brutal blast beat
Mick Harris-father of grindcore

.........I don't want to list my fave anymore
why all of you say the ones I don't like and no ones says the ones I like?

[BubusDaMonkey]

For me, (and not in this order) it's Chris Alder, Mike Portnoy, Morgan Rose, Ginger Fish, Danny Carey, Thomas Haake!!!

[Ian Williams]

John Tempesta -> The Cult

AL3 -> PowerMan 5000

Carmine Appice

Lars Ulrich - Metallica

[LeeLovesSabian]

Lars Ulrich, hands down.....

[jonty1992]

to name a few
Lars Ulrich (metallica)
Chris Adler (Lamb of god)
Tim Yeung (all that remains)
Mike Portnoy (dream theater)
Joey Jordison (slipknot)
Ben Gordon (parkway drive)
Spug (mudvayne)
The Rev (Avengend Sevenfold)
Travis Smith (Trivium)

[NeroDio]

Casey Grillo - Kamelot
Joey Jordison - Slipknot
Dave chavarri - Ill Nino
Travis Smith - Trivium
Roy Mayorga - Stone Sour
Chris Adler - Lamb of God
The Rev - Avenged Sevenfold.

Pretty much sums up all my favourite metal drummers.

[petrez]

John Tempesta (Testament, White Zombie, Helmet, The Cult)
Chris Adler (LoG)
Martin Axenrot (Opeth)
Martin Lopez (ex-Opeth)
Dave Lombardo
Paul Bostaph

Pretty much my favorites...

[bumhead]

Lars Ulrich. just for the pure inspiration of metallica's music.and his amazing work ethic and energy.

[Guz2]

Has to be Nicko Mcbrain. Phil Taylor and Mikkey Dee aren't too shabby either

[voyager]

Pete Sandoval from Morbid Angel and John Merryman from Cephalic Carnage.

Although not a metal drummer, Zach Hill from Hella is definitely one of the most brutal and technical drummers around.

[Ian Williams]

The one's that played in Mercyful Fate:

Kim Ruzz
Morten Nielsen
Lars Ulrich, as session member.
Snowy Shaw
Bjarne T. Holm

[Dylanjack]

Marco Minnemann when he played with Necrophagist.

[metal overlord]

Has to be Nicko Mcbrain. Phil Taylor and Mikkey Dee aren't too shabby either

Mikkey Dee is a beast. Live or in studio.

[polig]

Tommy Aldridge.
Ian Paice.

Not Metal:

Jeff Porcaro
Vinny Colaiutta.
Simon Philpis.

SLDS

[DrummerBoy95]

joey jordison - slipknot
mike portnoy - dream theater
the rev - avenged sevenfold
Jaska Raatikainen - children of bodom

[JanoHatesDrumming]

joey jordison - slipknot
mike portnoy - dream theater
the rev - avenged sevenfold
Jaska Raatikainen - children of bodom

i think those are all good except for the dude from children of bodom

[JanoHatesDrumming]

also as a non metal drummer i still think neil is one of the best

[LeeLovesSabian]

I like:
Lars Ulrich
Mike Portnoy
Bill Ward
Vinnie Paul
Mike Wengren
Dave Lombardo

[JanoHatesDrumming]

I like:
Lars Ulrich
Mike Portnoy
Bill Ward
Vinnie Paul
Mike Wengren
Dave Lombardo

yea vinnie paul is my favorite out of those he has good groove but can get heavy when need be

[kwolf68]

For me in metal, it begins and ends with Dave Lombardo. The guy is quite simply a master and was ahead of his time...not to mention he improved from album to album, which I think is vital. He's also a good guy.

Other metal drummers I really dig

-Lars Ulrich (it's Metallica, come on)
-Gar Samuelson (RIP to the original 'Deth drummer)
-John Tardy (one reason to listen to death metal...the drumming, not a blast beat merchant, but really cool drummer)
-Scott Travis (He took Priest to new heights...Painkiller ..yikes!!!)
-John Tempesta (he rocked on the Testament reunion video)

[scarlit]

lots of great names thrown out there.

how about Les Binks? (Judas Priest late 1970's)

his playing on the album "stained class" is absolutely incredible

[nacdrummer3]

so many great names come to my mind. My favourite new metal drummer would probably be martin axenrot (axe) of opeth and bloodbath. For me it's all about dave lombardo. He is the king of thrash and no one else was doing the same shit as him. He preety much in my opinion created the typical thrash drumming that we all know today. I would also have to say gene hoglan and ofcourse one of my greatest idols.........CHRIS ADLER! he is just brilliant behind the drumset

[elliotdrummer7227]

my favourite metal drummers are
chris alder
dave lombardo
jordan macino
chris pennie
shannon lucas
aaron gillspie


i would do anything to meet one of them my heros

[Pachikara-Tharakan]

My favorite drummers are the ones who makes me like the music that they play for., who is a BAND MEMBER, not a solo showoff personnal.
I am not into drum solos.

Nowdays, there are millions of drummers who can do so many tricks on 10 plus tom toms and 20 plus cymbals, which makes my jaw drop!

[Mikebike88]

Haven't searched the whole thread but damn I haven't seen a mention for Inferno of BEHEMOTH.


Some other favourites at the moment are


Sam Applebaum - Veil of Maya
Shannon Lucas - The Black Dahlia Murder
Derek Roddy
Jordan Mancino - As I Lay Dying
Samus - Abigail Williams
and Lyle Cooper of The Faceless

[Irrational Gaze]

has anyone mentioned nick barker yet? I hate cradle of filth, but his work with Dimmu Borgir on Death Cult Armageddon really impressed me

[METALDRUMMER666]

IN MY OPINION I THINK BY FAR THE BEST OF THE BEST IS..... ALEX PELLETIER.

[METALDRUMMER666]

SORRY i also for got to mention SAMUS from Abigail Williams I also think is in he top 3 ever!

[Ian Williams]

Megadeth drummers, they deserve some credit for their job:

Gar Samuelson
C. Behler
Nick Menza, awesome drumming on Rust In Peace & Countdown to Extinction.
Jimmy DeGrasso
Shawn Drover

[Khaine88]

tomas haake for sure

also i know hes been metioned a few times here but Dirk Verbeuren is an amazing drummer.
He is very underated imo though. He currently playes for soilwork, scarve and one way mirror aswell as being a drum teacher in MAI in france. I saw him live with soilwork supported by one way mirror whom he also plays for. i gotta say he is just amazing how he could play two sets like that was insane he has great technical far superior to the likes of chris adler and joey etc, and the far he has leart afican and latin styles of drumming amoungst others shows hes very versatile, which may be the reason why hes a very sought after session drummer.
I dont see how he isnt listed in modern drummers top 5 metal drummers where chris adler and joey are in 4th and 5th position i think.

But apart from that i agree with modern drummer saying that tomas haake is the best metal drummer

[Pyrate]

My favorite metal drummers are

Joey Jordison
Chris Adler

just love these two guys man =)

[Friddle Bill]

GENE HOGLAN!!!!!!!!! Although Flo Mounier and Derek Roddy aren't without their charm.

[White Rabbbit]

I love Martin Lopez's style and his feel for the groove and the kit. To me, that is unbeatable. Hes not the fastest, but has an incredible style.

[bcjkdem]

Allen Blickle - Baroness
Spun - Mudvayne
Tomas Haake - Mesuggah

[Tyrnox]

Sean Reinert - A legend in metal, and out of his mind in Cynic, anybody who has a chance to see this band live should run to the nearest show.

Dirk Verbeuren - Scary, scary, scary metal drummer, executing completely insane complex parts at furious speeds with scary precision, creative, and groovy. Check him out with Scarve and soilwork

[The Colonel]

This guys's time is ridiculous:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddQjDei2zbY

[metal overlord]

Andols Herrick
Chimaira's drummer
amazing

and

John Broeklyn (sp?)
Drums for Devildriver
This guy is amazing, I love his style. His uniqueness, and subtlty in some of his stuff.

[bobby_m]

Sam Applebaum of Veil of Maya is definitely my favourite!

[Babajaga]

Sean Reinert - Cynic
Moe Carlson - Protest The Hero
Mike Portnoy - (Like I need to say it?)
Chris Adler - Lab Of God (Not absolute favorite but good in what he's doing.)
Aquiles Priester - Angra (Reminds of Portnoy in some ways.)
David Silveria - Korn (Hope he never comes back to Korn, new albums are total shit and I say let Korn R.I.P)
Martin Lopez - Opeth
Martin Axenrot - Opeth (Listen to Watershed...)
Virgil Donati - Planet X (I know he plays in many other's but Planet X is where he is most inspiring to me.)
Yan Maillard - Dominici (Great upcoming drummer.)
Ed Warby - Ayreon (A. Lucassen: Robot with a human touch.)

I know these are not all even that metal, but these are great drumme's who can and sometimes play metal. I just couldn't decide.

[AdlerInspiration]

Adler--Lamb of God--Nuff' Said!

[inflames]

Jaska Raatikainen - Children of Bodom
Joey Jordison - Slipknot
Daniel Svensson - In Flames (obviously :D)
Janne Parviainen - Ensiferum
Chris Adler - Lamb of God

I like these guys because of their speed (sad i know), groove and their style of playing.

[nick4tuna]

matt griener from august burns red. amazing.

[666SLIPKNOT666]

The Rev - Avenged Sevenfold
Jason Bittner - Shadows Fall
Mike Portnoy - Dream Theater
Daniel Erlandsson - Arch Enemy
Chris Adler - Lamb Of God
Joey Jordison - Slipknot

[cfrew]

mike portnoy is probably one of the most innovative metal drummers of all time, but my favorite metal drummer would probably have to be either Danny Carey or The Rev.

[austin412]

this question is so hard because metal is just so demanding that i enjoy pretty much everyones drumming so heres my favorites and not who i think is best or most creative just the drummers that I enjoy listening to the most

Gene Hoglan
Tommy McKinnon
Lars Ulrich

i think that covers it but i know in like 10 minutes ill think of a million drummers

[Sezno]

Mike Ranne - We are the Romans (I don't really like the music but man he's fast)
Matt Griener - August Burns Red

[FHT8540]

The Rev- Avenged Sevenfold
Scott Travis- Judas Priest

[hatreddarknessdespair]

Sorry but personally I dislike Slip Knot. Just my opinion though, I definitely would have to say that George Kollias from Nile is the best hands down. Not only for his unbeatable speed but also his ability to play different styles of metal and blast beats. I could go on and on.

[Drums101]

Best metal drummer has to be no metal drummer at all :)

I'm sorry I dislike metal.

[Scorched]

Although "best" is obviously subjective I don't get most of picks in here. MY favrourite metal drummers right now:

Jamie Saint Merat - Ulcerate (look up vids in youtube right now)
Sean Reinert - Cynic
Navene Koperweis - Animals as Leaders/Animosity
John Longstreth - Origin
Roddy

[Therma lobsterdore]

Sorry but personally I dislike Slip Knot. Just my opinion though, I definitely would have to say that George Kollias from Nile is the best hands down. Not only for his unbeatable speed but also his ability to play different styles of metal and blast beats. I could go on and on.

Kolias is good for speed and brutality, but he doesn't put down the most interesting or creative beats. For that I'd say that Scorched is along the right lines. I love metal, but the majority of metal drummers sound like each other, the only difference is what tempo's they can hold. People like Reinhert, Navene Koperweis and Asgeir Mickelson (for his work with Spiral Architect) are untouchable in terms of creativity and are miles ahead of most metal drummers.

[nmddrummer]

Derek Roddy
George Kollias
Jordan Mancino

Amongst my favourites, but theres plenty of amazing metal drummers out there, so the list could just go on and on :)

[Fuo]

Nothing new...

Danny Carey (Tool)
Martin Lopez (Opeth)
Sean Reinert (Death & Cynic)
Brann Dailor (Mastodon)
Gene Hoglan (Death++)
Reed Mullen (Corrosion of Conformity)

[thatguykalem]

Ben Gordon - Parkway Drive
Lars Ulrich - Metallica (He's a total prick, but I like his drumming)
Mike Portnoy - Dream Theater
Joey Jordison - Slipknot

[toddy]

Best metal drummer has to be no metal drummer at all :)

I'm sorry I dislike metal.

that's a shame, you probably could have learn't alot from the genre and improved as a musician if you weren't as close minded. just like i have learn't alot from listening to pop music.

anyway, yeah. recently i've gone back to shannon lucas, black richardson, old opeth etc. oh and death too. yeah hoglan is a beast always, reinert is good too. will be posting covers of some stuff off miasma/nocturnal/colors/great misdirect on youtube soon. will probably post some deathcore/metalcore stuff up too, but that stuff is a little boring tbh. think i might take some old killswitch engage and add some blast beats and stuff for lolz.

if anyone enjoys playing 'faster' metal drumming (i.e. 220+) then check out some breakcore. some of it is like death metal/drum and bass crossover. very good for practicing rudiments too (and making crazy jungle beatz).

oh i'll also cover tool too, but i don't have a mandala yet so Right In Two is gonna sound crap.